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Hi,
I see that Roadmap https://tracker.clearos.com/roadmap_page.php is not being updated anymore. When can we expect ClearOS 8?

I want to install JRiver and apparently it will not work on ClearOS 7 but will on CentOS/ClearOS8.

Also what is up with the spam on the community dashboard page? https://www.clearos.com/clearfoundation/social/community-dashboard
Tuesday, February 04 2020, 08:38 PM
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    Monday, October 12 2020, 11:40 AM - #Permalink
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    I thing that the delay to the phone shipping is having a knock on effect on the decision timeframe.
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    Saturday, October 10 2020, 05:05 AM - #Permalink
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    Nick

    ClearOS8 is on hold for the moment because of the tie up between IBM and RedHat. The decision is expected to be revisited in Q3

    Well Q3 has come and gone and still absolutely nothing, or did you mean Q3 2021 or maybe 2022 :)
    Redhat Version 8.3 is now in Beta - if ClearOS wait long enough and eventually decide to stay with CentOS they can jump straight to version 9 when it is released and miss out 8 altogether...
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    Wednesday, July 08 2020, 11:04 AM - #Permalink
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    Ciao!

    Any news about clearos 8?

    In my company we are so entusiast about the use of cockpit. We already have good knowledge.

    There are some High level ETA?
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    Sunday, June 21 2020, 09:08 AM - #Permalink
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    Tony Ellis wrote:
    As I understand it CentOS has six developers on its staff. In addition they receive significant help direct from the RHEL developers plus the CentOS community at large. There is another RHEL clone, "Scientfiic Linux" create by Fermilab, but they have announced this... here

    Toward that end, we will deploy CentOS 8 in our scientific computing
    environments rather than develop Scientific Linux 8.

    Fermilabs will continue support for their Versions 6 and 7 until their lifecycle is over. Apparently CentOS hired Fermilabs lead developer :)


    Hmm, that is positive news and good for the future of ClearOS.

    In my opinion it is best to stick with CentOS as base distro for ClearOS. The most stable distro and less work has to be done for make ClearOS 8 reality.

    I also give it some thoughts some time ago and the plans to use Cockpit for ClearOS 8 is in my opinion not a good idea. That ClearOS is using a framework to gives it's own identity is a really big plus. I'm not sure what the status is of the current web framework what ClearOS 7.x is using. ClearOS 7.x is using Codigniter web framework? That is now on version 4.0.3. So it is still actively developed. Sticking with the current framework is also a big plus, less work have to be done, Just upgrade to the latest version. Maybe the devs of codigniter have implemented some nice features what gives ClearOS 8.x a fresh look.
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    Sunday, June 21 2020, 08:08 AM - #Permalink
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    Marcel write

    I haven't the slightest idea how much work it is to re-brand for example RHEL.

    As I understand it CentOS has six developers on its staff. In addition they receive significant help direct from the RHEL developers plus the CentOS community at large. There is another RHEL clone, "Scientfiic Linux" create by Fermilab, but they have announced this... here

    Toward that end, we will deploy CentOS 8 in our scientific computing
    environments rather than develop Scientific Linux 8.

    Fermilabs will continue support for their Versions 6 and 7 until their lifecycle is over. Apparently CentOS hired Fermilabs lead developer :)
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    Sunday, June 21 2020, 06:40 AM - #Permalink
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    Nick Howitt wrote:

    Remember it is only one journalist's view. It could be right or wrong. As a thought, could Oracle Linux be used as a base instead?


    It is a bit dangerous to be dependent from another company but that is also now the case. I haven't the slightest idea how much work it is to re-brand a for example RHEL. I can imagine with the current line-up of developers and community members it is not possible. Although it is a interesting direction.
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    Thursday, June 18 2020, 08:13 PM - #Permalink
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    Remember it is only one journalist's view. It could be right or wrong. As a thought, could Oracle Linux be used as a base instead?
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    Thursday, June 18 2020, 06:35 PM - #Permalink
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    That is indeed bad news. So CentOS 8 as base for ClearOS 8 is probably a no go. By saying "this has a big impact for ClearOS 8" I'm right?



    Nick Howitt wrote:

    Ouch! That is not nice reading. Having said that, it may be worth remembering that ClearOS 6.x was built directly off EL6.


    With current amount of developers is that possible?
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    Wednesday, June 17 2020, 10:14 AM - #Permalink
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    Ouch! That is not nice reading. Having said that, it may be worth remembering that ClearOS 6.x was built directly off EL6.
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    Wednesday, June 17 2020, 08:11 AM - #Permalink
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    The following is an extract from the CentOS Mailing list just addedd y "Niki" Nicholas Kovacs...

    The author's theory ("unspoken truth"): while it's a positive thing that Red
    Hat is sponsoring CentOS, the amount of sponsoring is just insufficient enough
    so that the product is "starved to death" by Red Hat (e. g. IBM) to encourage
    users to move to RHEL.

    The author's conclusion is quite severe: in the current state of things, CentOS
    8 is not recommendable for production as updates are lagging too much behind.
    While CentOS 7 may be usable, CentOS 8 has been "degraded to teaching and
    testing purposes".

    Still according to Mister Kofler, this "sorry state of things" will probably
    encourage users to move to Oracle Linux, the other big RHEL clone.

    For the whole thing read Original blog Article (in German)
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    Tuesday, May 05 2020, 09:04 AM - #Permalink
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    Nick Howitt wrote:

    As Centos 7.8 has now just been released, it may be possible to review how the IBM/RedHat partnership affected it so, perhaps, an earlier decision may be possible, but I am not involved in the process.


    Thanks you for your replay.
    I am so happy to work whit ClearOS (as my first work), hope that all will goes fine.
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    Tuesday, May 05 2020, 07:14 AM - #Permalink
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    As Centos 7.8 has now just been released, it may be possible to review how the IBM/RedHat partnership affected it so, perhaps, an earlier decision may be possible, but I am not involved in the process.
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    Monday, May 04 2020, 10:32 AM - #Permalink
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    Un my company we are updating our infrastructure.

    Our choice would fall on ClearOS but if there aren't evolutionary we cannot focus on a dead project.

    Please update us.
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    Tuesday, February 11 2020, 07:55 PM - #Permalink
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    I'm quite curious about the ClearOS 8 situation as well.

    Currently we have quite a fleet of ClearOS 6 units that I'd like to replace with ClearOS 8 units. Thanks!
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    Wednesday, February 05 2020, 10:30 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Nick,

    Are you able to expand a little on the issues from the IBM/RedHat tie up that have put ClearOS8 on hold. We have a significant base of ClearOS 6 & 7 clients and it's a little concerning to hear that development is on hold.


    Thanks.... Andy
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    Tuesday, February 04 2020, 09:23 PM - #Permalink
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    I'm trying to pension off the tracker, slowly migrating the issues to GitLab. Only 400+ to go ....

    ClearOS8 is on hold for the moment because of the tie up between IBM and RedHat. The decision is expected to be revisited in Q3. Can't help with JRiver. Perhaps a docker image, but even integrating any docker image on ClearOS with a firewall is tricky.

    I've mentioned the spam to people who know. I never look at the page.
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