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Hello once more one and all.

I would like to run MythTV on my CC5 server. Manly because this mean's i only have to run the one computer 24 hour's a day. I belive i only whant to run the backend on it as im not realy planning on using the CC box for play back.

So far iv followed the How To found on the old CC site. Now iv been able to follow this ok ish.

At first i got as far as
"Configure your MythTV backend by running mythtv-setup by using SSH X forwarding, or the old school remote X way (DISPLAY=192.168.2.202:0 mythtv-setup)."
This stoped me for a while as i could not get this command to run via ssh.
After a few weeks i decided to install X using the instruction to install MythTV-Frontend, this finaly allowed me to run mythtv-setup localy on CC.

This is where iv got a little lost as to what to do next. I suppose what i want is an idiots guide for CentOS 5 if any one could point me in the right direction. Or if some one could do a more in depth How To for CC that would be grate.

Thanks in advance for any input from any one
Tuesday, October 20 2009, 10:45 AM
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    When I trun
    yum --enablerepo=clearos-core install mythtv
    I get following errors, any idea how to resolve them? it is on 6.6

    -> Finished Dependency Resolution
    Error: Package: xmltv-0.5.65-86.el6.noarch (mythtv-stephen-collier)
    Requires: perl(DateTime::Format::Strptime)
    Error: Package: perl-DateTime-Format-Builder-0.8000-2_1.el5.noarch (atrpms)
    Requires: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8)
    Error: Package: libfreebob-1.0.11-6.el5.x86_64 (atrpms)
    Requires: libraw1394.so.8()(64bit)
    Error: Package: perl-Class-Factory-Util-1.7-7.el5.noarch (atrpms)
    Requires: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8)
    Error: Package: xmltv-grabbers-0.5.65-86.el6.noarch (mythtv-stephen-collier)
    Requires: perl(DateTime::Format::Strptime)
    Error: Package: perl-DateTime-Format-ISO8601-0.07-2_1.el5.noarch (atrpms)
    Requires: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8)
    Error: Package: transcode-1.1.7-51.el6.x86_64 (mythtv-stephen-collier)
    Requires: libmjpegutils-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
    You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
    ** Found 3 pre-existing rpmdb problem(s), 'yum check' output follows:
    1:app-openldap-directory-1.5.15-1.v6.noarch has missing requires of app-openldap-directory-core = ('1', '1.5.15', '1.v6')
    perl-Test-Simple-0.92-136.el6.x86_64 has missing requires of perl = ('4', '5.10.1', '136.el6')
    webconfig-php-imap-5.3.3-22.v6.2.x86_64 has missing requires of webconfig-php-common(x86-64) = ('0', '5.3.3', '22.v6.2')
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    augustynr
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    Monday, February 09 2015, 11:44 PM - #Permalink
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    I am in the same boat.
    Any other ways of installing it?
    Thanks
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    Where is mythtv now?

    I can't seem to find it in the clearos-test repo?

    Peter Baldwin wrote:
    Hi Duncan,

    Bit by bit, I'm rolling out a media solution in my house. Right now I have an XBMC frontend (ClearOS 6 on a MacMini) and plan on building out a MythTV backend (ClearOS on a server). As of just this weekend, a good chunk of the media stack was migrated to ClearOS. This means you should be able to install MythTV by:

    1) Installing the ATrpms repo from http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el6/atrpms-repo/ (32-bit or 64-bit)

    2) Running:

    # yum --enablerepo=clearos-test install mythtv
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 08:45 PM - #Permalink
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    just tried and I have the same problem .....
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    I know this sounds like utter madness, but have you restarted in a while?

    I seem to think that when ever this type of error happens to me a restart will more offen than not clear it!

    Restart and try to install again.

    and all ways stick with it.
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    MythTV is trying to install perl-XML-SAX-Base, but the version of perl-XML-SAX-Base it is trying to install requires a version of perl-XML-SAX greater than 0.99.

    You have two choices. Either find a version of perl-XML-SAX > 0.99 and hope it works with the rest of ClearOS (it probably will) or find an earlier version of perl-XML-SAX-Base which is compatible with perl-XML-SAX-0.96-7 and still compatible with MythTV. The second option is probably safer but I don't know what MythTV's requirements are. You will need to query the package (have a look at the yum manual to see how).
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    augustynr
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 07:36 PM - #Permalink
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    Thanks but I must do not understand the error.
    My understanding was that there was a conflict between the two not that the system is missing it ....?
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 07:34 PM - #Permalink
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    You'll have to hunt down an rpm, perhaps by using the rpmfind site or atrpms or some of the other sources.
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    This is what I get but I am not clear on how to use it :)
    [root@clearos52 ~]# yum whatprovides perl-XML-SAX
    ....
    perl-XML-SAX-0.96-7.el6.noarch : XML-SAX Perl module
    Repo : clearos-core
    Matched from:


    [root@clearos52 ~]# yum whatprovides perl-XML-SAX-Base

    perl-XML-SAX-Base-1.08-10_4.el6.noarch : Base class SAX Drivers and Filters
    Repo : atrpms
    Matched from:
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 06:04 PM - #Permalink
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    Now I'm home I've had a quick check and I can't see the package anywhere in the ClearOS repos. I have not tried a "whatprovides"
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 03:19 PM - #Permalink
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    thanks Nick but it does not work I get the same error.
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    Tuesday, January 28 2014, 12:49 PM - #Permalink
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    From memory, there are a lot of perl packages in clearos-epel so you could try:
    yum --enablerepo=clearos-test,clearos-epel install mythtv
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    Hi I wanted to try this and after I run:
    yum --enablerepo=clearos-test install mythtv
    I got this:
    --> Processing Conflict: perl-XML-SAX-Base-1.08-10_4.el6.noarch conflicts perl-XML-SAX < 0.99
    --> Finished Dependency Resolution
    Error: perl-XML-SAX-Base conflicts with perl-XML-SAX-0.96-7.el6.noarch
    You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
    You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

    Any way to resolve it?
    btw: I am on CO6.5.
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    Tuesday, October 02 2012, 04:02 PM - #Permalink
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    I have been using MythTV with ClearOS 6.x 64 bit for some time without any problems.

    I have used the ATrpms repo to install it, the only problem i have is that the ATrpms for MythTV is not being updated very fast when there is new new release for MythTV.

    Søren
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    Tuesday, October 02 2012, 03:54 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Duncan,

    Bit by bit, I'm rolling out a media solution in my house. Right now I have an XBMC frontend (ClearOS 6 on a MacMini) and plan on building out a MythTV backend (ClearOS on a server). As of just this weekend, a good chunk of the media stack was migrated to ClearOS. This means you should be able to install MythTV by:

    1) Installing the ATrpms repo from http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el6/atrpms-repo/ (32-bit or 64-bit)

    2) Running:

    # yum --enablerepo=clearos-test install mythtv
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    How possible is this in conjunction with 6.X?

    I only ask because Ive been considering a mythtv build, originally a front/back combo.

    However I could see the practicality of a COS 6/backend as a combined home server and a seperate frontend with mythbuntu for an easy life.

    Ive become focused on this more and more due to useless set top boxes in UK, I had to sort out 4 different faulty and increasingly expensive rubbish all failing until I finally found a decent make in TVOnics. Expensive but it was a good box and well done, UK made too. Thought that was the end of it but sadly the company just failed! (Typical UK story these days).

    The UK market is flooded with terrible expensive DVB rubbish and I find myself thinking of alternatives again.
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    Monday, June 18 2012, 11:28 PM - #Permalink
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    Thank Tim,

    I see some one already requested the update.

    Søren
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    Sorry for my late reply Duncan.

    I have now installed 6.2 on my real server, and it went pretty good.

    I dont know why, but that problem i had with Samba did not happen this time.

    I was able to use your instructions for 5.2, with the only change being that i changed the atrpms.repo file to look el6-386, so it looks like this instead:

    [atrpms]
    name=Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - i386 - ATrpms
    baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el6-i386/atrpms/stable
    failovermethod=priority
    gpgcheck=1
    enabled=0

    [atrpms-testing]
    name=Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - i386- ATrpms testing
    baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el6-i386/atrpms/testing
    failovermethod=priority
    gpgcheck=1
    enabled=0


    This might be a stupid question, but who is updating the atrpm, and is there anywhere I am able to follow updates for the MythTV part. The reason for my question is that there is a newer version of 0.25 out, but it is not in the atrpms.

    Søren
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    You can copy the database across and mythtv setup will upgrade it but i would use the mythtv backup and restore scripts to do this rather than doing a mysql dump.

    Not sure about the Samba thing. I built mine from source and i have the requirements all worked out if you want to do it that way.
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    Thursday, May 24 2012, 01:56 PM - #Permalink
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    Duncan,

    I have now tried an install ClearOS 6.2 in a VirtualBox, and i only had one problem with installing MythTV 0.25.

    They only problem i had was that MythTV said i required Samba-Client ver 5 something, but i had ver 6.
    I downgraded to version 5, and then Mythtv installed without any problems. Now the problem is that when i then do a Yum update, i failes because of problems with this downgrade of samba-client.

    Now my question is, is there an other way to install MythTV, then downgrading the samba-client, or if not, how do i fix the problem with yum update, after downgrade.

    About the Mythtv Mysql database, If i make a backup of my 0.24.1 database, will i be able to load that in to my new ClearOS 6.2 MythTV 0.25?

    Søren
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    Friday, May 18 2012, 09:33 PM - #Permalink
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    Thanks for your reply Duncan.

    I had my old server H/W sitting on the shelf, so i wanted to try and install ClearOS 6.2 on that, just to test, But now i ran into a new problem.... The CPU on the old MB do not support PAE, so i am unable to try it with 6.2.

    It really sucks, because i have come to enjoy MythTV a lot, but Mythmusic in 0.24 is not living up to my exspectations for a HTPC, and from what i have read, in 0.25 Mythmusic was changed completly, so i was hopping that i could install it.

    Now i have to think about what i will do.

    Søren
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    Monday, April 23 2012, 03:00 PM - #Permalink
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    Thanks a lot Duncan.
    You saved me from doing something real stupid.

    Is there any chance that Mythtv will be released for Cent5?

    Do I have an other option, like installing from source?

    The thing is that i have become a real Mythtv fan, and there is some improvements for MythMusic I would really like.

    Søren
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    Unfortunately 0.25 is not available for Centos 5 so an installation of Clearos 6 is going to be required. However at the moment there are some issues with messagebus in Centos 6 and Mythtv so it's a bit of a headache.

    Given time it will probably sort itself out but you might want to wait a bit.
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    Sunday, April 22 2012, 02:49 PM - #Permalink
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    I have used duncan's guide 5-6 month ago, and everything have worked great. Thanks for the guide duncan.

    Now i would like to updat to Mythtv 0.25 version, since there is a lot of improvements.
    How do I do that?

    Søren
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    No worries John.

    I am rebuilding two boxes at the moment and I always try to find the best way to set things up in a virtual machine before proceeding. Documenting the way I did it helps me when I do it for real and doing it here hopefully will help others (so it's a worthwhile excercise).

    I have hit a snag that I won't be able to resolve until I do this on some real hardware so I guess it's time to rebuild my machines :)
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    Thanks Duncan,

    I can see that you really made an effort.
    One of the problems is that the specific COS box is in production mode and I am not sure if it would be wise to upgrade it's kernel.
    Maybe it's an idea to test this on a virtual COS box, but I'll have to set that up first.
    Even before testing this I want to thank you for all the work that you put into creating this real HowTo.

    Hopefully others will be able to follow your instructions and learn from it how to make it work for them.
    I for one am already grateful for your detailed step by step explanation.

    Greetings,

    John
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    Assuming that this is not a production system the first thing you will want to do is upgrade your kernel to something a little more current. Unless you are using something like a HDHomeRun the kernel that comes with a new install probably won't support your card or a newer kernel will support your card better. The best way to do this is to install the community repo as described here.

    To upgrade the kernel you would do

    # yum --enablerepo=timb-testing install kernel 

    and yum will do the rest. After this is done you can do a reboot and your new kernel should be up and running. Hopefully your card is as well and a dmesg at the command line or a quick peek in /dev should tell you if things are ok with your card. If your card needs any firmware it should go in /lib/firmware.

    ClearOS is best suited to running as a backend so to connect to the backend to configure it you will need to do some X11 forwarding. It is turned on by default in a 5.2 system so really the only setting up needs to be done at the client end. I use putty as my SSH client and Xming as my X11 server. If you want to use this method it's pretty easy to set up.

    First open putty and in Category - Connection - SSH - X11 find the 'Enable X11 forwarding' and tick it. In 'X display location" type in localhost:10 and then save the session as something meaningful. Everytime you start this session it will also enable X11 forwarding. Connect to your ClearOS box and the first time you log in remotely with this configuration you should see something along the lines of

    /usr/bin/xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority

    in the terminal window. To configure Xming run the Xlaunch program and run through the setup pages. On the first page leave it set at multiple windows and choose the Display number as 10. On the second window leave as start no client. On the 3rd window leave the defaults and on the 4th window you can save the configuration if you like and click finish. Nothing much will happen. Go back to your remote ssh session and run the following program (which might change locations in future versions).

    # /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox

    A clearconsole window should open up on your local desktop. This proves that your setup works and you can shut it down.

    ATrpms has a fairly current backend package available that works with ClearOS. Setting up the repo's requires a little editing of the yum configuration files and we disable them by default so they don't mess with the rest of the system.

    Import the ATrpms’ signing key

    rpm --import http://packages.atrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms

    and set up the repo's.

    nano /etc/yum.repos.d/atrpms.repo

    Paste the following into the file and save (if you are using putty you can simply copy the lines and a right click in the nano window will paste them into the file).

    [atrpms]
    name=Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 - i386 - ATrpms
    baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el5-i386/atrpms/stable
    failovermethod=priority
    gpgcheck=1
    enabled=0

    [atrpms-testing]
    name=Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 - i386- ATrpms testing
    baseurl=http://dl.atrpms.net/el5-i386/atrpms/testing
    failovermethod=priority
    gpgcheck=1
    enabled=0

    A Ctrl-x will save the file.

    Before installing mythbackend it's probably a good idea to set up the sql database. If you havn't already enable mysql in the ClearOS webconfig and set a password. Install the mythtv-docs package which has the basic sql configuration for mythtv within it.

    # yum --enablerepo=atrpms* install mythtv-docs

    And when this is done import the mc.sql file. Depending on the version the location might change so we can do a quick serch for the mc.sql file before and adjust as required. Use the password you set for mysql earlier.

    # updatedb
    # locate mc.sql
    /usr/share/doc/mythtv-docs-0.24/database/mc.sql
    # mysql -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-docs-0.24.1/database/mc.sql
    Enter password:
    #

    Once this is done we can install the backend. This step adds the user mythtv.

    yum --enablerepo=atrpms* --exclude=qt4 --exclude=qt44* --exclude=qt4-mysql install mythtv-backend mythtv-setup mythtv-frontend qt47 perl-MythTV perl-Net-UPnP


    The install is about 60 meg. When it is finished you can configure the backend by connecting with what ever method you are using for X11 forwarding and run the setup program.

    # mythtv-setup


    Go through each step configuring to suit your location, hardware etc and hit escape when done. The setup program will complain if it doesn't have enough information.

    If you want to install mythweb you will have to upgrade php. The easiest way to do this is to use the community repo as described here. Once that is done you can install mythweb as follows.

    # yum --enablerepo=atrpms* --enablerepo=timb-testing  install mythweb-0.24.1 php

    Restart httpd

    # service httpd restart

    and you should be able to browse your backend at http://ipaddress/mythweb

    Hopefully that is enough to get mythbackend up and running on your machine. For a frontend you can use a purpose built machine running mythfrontend or my preferred method is to use someting like an NTV350 and mythtv's DLNA server (which works very well in 0.24). If you are going to build a frontend machine you need to be careful to match the version to the backend you have just installed. If they are not matched they will not talk to each other. You must also make sure the timezones are the same as again they will not talk to each other if they are different or out by a little bit.
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    Have you taken a look at Tims kernel upgrade howto. It's an easy way to get some recent v4l drivers up and running and a shiny new kernel to boot. It might give you some joy with your card.

    One of the big problems you are going to have with the analogue card is your electronic program guide. I am not sure whats available in your part of the world but you are probably going to have to use some sort of script (for both mythtv or tvheadend) to get your guide data which can be two parts black magic and one part divine intervention to get working (and keep working) at times.
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    That sounds promising Duncan,

    Although I must admit that I don't know what a .24 backend means ... :blink:
    Maybe I forgot to mention that I am attempting to enable lan tv with an analog tv card ... :blush:
    AFAIK this card cannot be used with tvheadend ... :angry: ... so therefor I requested some guidance with MythTV.

    Good luck,

    John
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    Just looking around it would appear that ATrpms have some very current backend rpms built for centos. Might be worth a look. I tend to avoid built packages because you end up having to wait for the packager to update the rpms which can be a problem with bugs etc but these seem to be turned over fairly often.

    EDIT - Well it took me about an hour to get a .24 backend up and running using ATrpms in a virtual machine. A bit messy so I will go through it again and try and clean it up.
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    Thanks Duncan,

    I am already looking forward to your and maybe others that are able to create a detailed HowTo.
    Good luck with compiling, because for me that is a bridge (or two) too far ... :blush:

    Greetings,

    John
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    I am planning a pretty thorough howto which i will write up over the next few weeks. Clearos is the perfect distro for it IMO although only as a backend. As far as TVheadend goes - Mythtv is miles ahead on flexability and functionality. It can be a bear to install though. I don't do the rpm thing prefering to compile from source.
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    Hi all,

    I am sorry if I step on anyones toes ... :ohmy: ... or something, but the title of this thread implies that somewhere in here, there is a step by step plan on how to install, configure and maybe even use MythTV.
    I was only able to install it and my understanding of MythTV is worse than TVheadend ... :blink:
    All I can read here is that with some people it worked and with others it didn't, but no one really describes the steps they took in detail.
    Can someone who is able to write the basic steps please step in, because so far all I see are fragments that when put together do not even cover a corner of the whole picture ... at least for me (I am not a developer).

    Greetings,

    John
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    Thank you for your work in packaging mythtv, a router that is always on and connected is a no-brainer for hosting the myth backend.

    Problem is I'm doing something horribly wrong here. I'm working on a test box so I don't have to worry about breaking my router. I do a clean standalone install of ClearOS 5.2, then
    yum update
    yum --enablerepo=base-extras install mythtv-backend mythtv-setup mythtv-frontend
    then try to run mythtv-setup and get the error

    Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)

    Doing some research I find that myth wants the socket at /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock while ClearOS is putting it at /var/lib/system-mysql/mysql.sock

    From here I did a bunch of bad things that didn't get me much further and really don't need to be put in print. What is the proper way to resolve the location of the database? BTW, I have no intention of using mysql for anything but myth so I would rather stay with myths conventions as I plan to immediately update myth to version 0.23 for compatibility with my existing myth installation.
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    :blush: Oh... I guess after installing Xming on the windows machine you should reboot it ...

    works fine now! :lol:
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    jan
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    Saturday, August 28 2010, 09:30 PM - #Permalink
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    Start>All Program's>Xming>XLaunch:
    - choose for 'one window'
    - choose for 'start no client' (you will start original Putty after this)
    - an X window opens
    Then you start Putty
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    Saturday, August 28 2010, 09:20 PM - #Permalink
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    jan wrote:
    no, I did the tric with the original putty.
    don't forget to open an X-window on the client with Xming, before you start the commando on Putty.


    how?
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    Saturday, August 28 2010, 08:19 PM - #Permalink
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    no, I did the tric with the original putty.
    don't forget to open an X-window on the client with Xming, before you start the commando on Putty.
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    Saturday, August 28 2010, 08:13 PM - #Permalink
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    I am using original putty with X11 forwarding enabled. I can access the system through putty.
    I have Xming installed on the client and running, ... what do you mean "open a windows with XLaunch"?

    I use the defaults
    1) multiple windows
    2) start no client
    3 ) ...

    the I go into putty with X11 enabled pointing to localhost:0.0

    then I 'mythtv-setup' and get the error:

    [root@system ~]# mythtv-setup
    mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server

    I am not using portablePuTTY from Xming. Do I need to purchase that?
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