Nick,

This discussion is already been held a couple of times on the forum, but for an annual paid package you might expect something.
Not every development or change needs to picked up, but a major update should be.

It is not my intention to start a discussion again about support or development of Clear (not to yours), but there people paying annually for some packages.

I don't see why we can't go to NC20, except for lack of developer time. Running occ commands in the upgrade script is easy-enough. I think we do it already. NC21 is an issue. The problem is that system-mariadb is not fully sandboxed so any upgrade to mariadb, even using the rh-mariadb102/3 packages may destroy you system-database. I know it gets destroyed using third party repos. I think it may also with the rh- packages. Work would need to be done here and there is no one to do it. There is a bug report which gives an outline and it may not be too hard, but I don't know.

FWIW, I'm running NC 20.0.5 installed from source. Moving to NC20, and subsequently a later version meant a couple of occ commands, but everything is working quite happily.
It's worth noting though, that NC 21 will need MariaDB version 10.2 or later - the default COS version is 5.5.65.

Oh - and NC is installed into the 'main database'.

It is looking like the build system is now working so I hope to push 7.9 next Tuesday.

Nick Howitt wrote:

I know the feeling, but Tyler is stick on phone stuff and it looks like it is taking off and generating quite a bit of support load. This is being addressed. Anyway the build system has been having problems this year.

Have you been following the NC forums? It looks like v20 caused quite a lot of stir with many apps not being compatible.

No, I was not following the NC forums lately.
If v20 is causing issues, we need to wait.

The v19 has been in testing for a long time. Would be nice to push this forward.
Brings back the spark with COS a bit if we can push some new stuff or updates.

I know the feeling, but Tyler is stick on phone stuff and it looks like it is taking off and generating quite a bit of support load. This is being addressed. Anyway the build system has been having problems this year.

Have you been following the NC forums? It looks like v20 caused quite a lot of stir with many apps not being compatible.

Patrick de Brabander wrote:

Nick Howitt wrote:

That is up to Tyler who is head down in the ClearPHONE launch at the moment. You can update to the Beta and it will work but a few things need to be tidied up. For example, I think rh-php72-php-fpm should really be restarted to have the change in php memory put into effect. I think there are some other bits he wanted to tidy up as well but I'm not sure want (apart from a cosmetic indentation issue in one file). I've had the beta running for a long time now, but I don't really use NC apart from testing and support.

I know the beta can be installed, but just wondering when it came to the repo as official release after 3 months

We can skip version 19 ?
Version 20 is released some month ago

Sorry for the sceptism, but some action is appreciated

Nick Howitt wrote:

That is up to Tyler who is head down in the ClearPHONE launch at the moment. You can update to the Beta and it will work but a few things need to be tidied up. For example, I think rh-php72-php-fpm should really be restarted to have the change in php memory put into effect. I think there are some other bits he wanted to tidy up as well but I'm not sure want (apart from a cosmetic indentation issue in one file). I've had the beta running for a long time now, but I don't really use NC apart from testing and support.

I know the beta can be installed, but just wondering when it came to the repo as official release after 3 months

That is up to Tyler who is head down in the ClearPHONE launch at the moment. You can update to the Beta and it will work but a few things need to be tidied up. For example, I think rh-php72-php-fpm should really be restarted to have the change in php memory put into effect. I think there are some other bits he wanted to tidy up as well but I'm not sure want (apart from a cosmetic indentation issue in one file). I've had the beta running for a long time now, but I don't really use NC apart from testing and support.

Nick,
Any chance on the update of Nextcloud 19 soon ?

There is also an issue with the memory_limit. Although it is being changed, rh-php72-php-fpm.service needs to be restarted for it to take effect.

I'll pass your comments on to Tyler. I don't like the idea of PHP 7.3. I'll have to see how we added PHP 7.2 last year.

These remarks can solved by doing the following

• The database is missing some indexes. Due to the fact that adding indexes on big tables could take some time they were not added automatically. By running "occ db:add-missing-indices" those missing indexes could be added manually while the instance keeps running. Once the indexes are added queries to those tables are usually much faster.
  
- Missing index "properties_path_index" in table "oc_properties".

sudo -u apache /opt/rh/rh-php72/root/usr/bin/php /usr/share/nextcloud/occ db:add-missing-indices


• The database is missing some optional columns. Due to the fact that adding columns on big tables could take some time they were not added automatically when they can be optional. By running "occ db:add-missing-columns" those missing columns could be added manually while the instance keeps running. Once the columns are added some features might improve responsiveness or usability.
  

sudo -u apache /opt/rh/rh-php72/root/usr/bin/php /usr/share/nextcloud/occ db:add-missing-indices

Nick Howitt wrote:

Nextcloud 19 is available for testing. If you would like to test it, please do:

yum update app-nextcloud* --enablerepo=clearos*testing

Hi Nick,
The update from 18 to 19 executed with no errors.

I see in the admin overview the following comments/remarks
http://domain.com/nextcloud/index.php/settings/admin/overview

There are some errors regarding your setup.

• Some files have not passed the integrity check. Further information on how to resolve this issue can be found in the documentation. (List of invalid files… / Rescan…)
  


• MySQL is used as database but does not support 4-byte characters. To be able to handle 4-byte characters (like emojis) without issues in filenames or comments for example it is recommended to enable the 4-byte support in MySQL. For further details read the documentation page about this.
  


• Your web server is not properly set up to resolve "/.well-known/caldav". Further information can be found in the documentation.
  


• Your web server is not properly set up to resolve "/.well-known/carddav". Further information can be found in the documentation.
  


• No memory cache has been configured. To enhance performance, please configure a memcache, if available. Further information can be found in the documentation.
  


• You are currently running PHP 7.2.24. Upgrade your PHP version to take advantage of performance and security updates provided by the PHP Group as soon as your distribution supports it.
  


• Nextcloud 19 is the last release supporting PHP 7.2. Nextcloud 20 requires at least PHP 7.3.
  


• The PHP OPcache is not properly configured. For better performance it is recommended to use the following settings in the php.ini:
  
opcache.enable=1
opcache.interned_strings_buffer=8
opcache.max_accelerated_files=10000
opcache.memory_consumption=128
opcache.save_comments=1
opcache.revalidate_freq=1


• The database is missing some indexes. Due to the fact that adding indexes on big tables could take some time they were not added automatically. By running "occ db:add-missing-indices" those missing indexes could be added manually while the instance keeps running. Once the indexes are added queries to those tables are usually much faster.
  
- Missing index "properties_path_index" in table "oc_properties".


• The database is missing some optional columns. Due to the fact that adding columns on big tables could take some time they were not added automatically when they can be optional. By running "occ db:add-missing-columns" those missing columns could be added manually while the instance keeps running. Once the columns are added some features might improve responsiveness or usability.
  
- Missing optional column "reference_id" in table "oc_comments".

Please double check the installation guides ↗, and check for any errors or warnings in the log.

Check the security of your Nextcloud over our security scan ↗.

Nextcloud 19 is available for testing. If you would like to test it, please do:

yum update app-nextcloud* --enablerepo=clearos*testing