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I plan to install clearos on my hp gen8 microserver.
My purpose is to create a NAS, a personal file server with no more than 2 users.
Are required NFS, FTP, torrent engine, RAID software.
At this time i've tested clearos community threw a virtual machine.
This version is said to be not supported, and softwares untested.
I've performed tests on this verion and it seems to be ok.

Regarding the following :
https://www.clearos.com/products/clearos-editions/clearos-7-comparison
all versions are presented...

Which clearos edition should be the best choice to realize a Personal NAS ?


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Mac
Sunday, December 20 2015, 07:48 PM
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Aka Hime
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Sunday, December 27 2015, 07:20 PM - #Permalink
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In practice I have left the community edition online for months at a time without issue, so in terms of stability you should be safe. In regards to the linux raid (I am assuming that clearos uses mdadm (it is installed by default) and that you are doing software raid), I have run my own file server in raid 6 off of that raid software for years and never had an issue (did well with everything including disk failures). You can also configure it to alert via email on events aswell, which is useful to monitor array health.

One thing to note however is that the raid will add extra overhead to the system (only important if being used heavily for other things aswell), and your boot disk wont be in the raid normally (as the os is what launches the software, it cant do so until it is started.). Also it might require using the command line as i am unsure how much of the process the GUI will actually do.


### Disk Monitoring ###
For a Raid array I also recommend installing smartmontools ("yum install smartmontools", unlike the GUI App version this is free) to monitor the disks. You can configure this to send email alerts when events occur aswell as regularly test the disks. If you need a mail relay (an smtp server) to send through due to ISP blocking you can use Mandrill (free) for this, on clearos7 you simply go to system -> settings -> mailsettings in the web interface to configure this.

##### Sample smartmontools config#####
/dev/sda -a -d sat -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m email@address.com

This runs a short drive test daily and a long test once a week for /dev/sda. If you want to change this the default config file lists the settings that can be used, this also needs to be altered to reflect your disk setup.

NFS/Torrent Engines are available via apps like flexshare & Transmission which are also free for the community edition. The community edition should be able to meet your software needs.

Useful resources (might refer to different linux distro, however the process is much the same)

Command Cheatsheet
http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/
http://bryanesmith.com/docs/mdadm/
http://blog.mbentley.net/2010/11/creating-a-raid-5-array-in-linux-with-mdadm/
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    Tuesday, December 29 2015, 02:47 PM - #Permalink
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    Do you backup your clearos system ?
    Did you have to upgrade to clearos 7 ? Was it easy to do ?/


    I have an external USB hard disk which I manully back files up to.

    There isn't any actual upgrade path to ClearOS7, it is a case of doing a clean install, which is sometimes a good thing.
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    Mac Gram
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    Monday, December 28 2015, 08:54 AM - #Permalink
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    Hi Aka Hime.:)

    Thanks a lot for your very very helpfull answers.;)
    I'll install it in a few days.
    You're right. Disk monitoring is to be implemented.

    Clearos 7 will be installed on a separate device, without RAID.
    I think about an internal usb key or a little ssd device.
    RAID will be dedicated for datas.

    I'll try also to install owncloud on it by myself, because market place does not have a free version.
    I suppose it is possible to install it even though it 'll not be managed threw clearos applications....

    By the way...
    Do you backup your clearos system ?
    Did you have to upgrade to clearos 7 ? Was it easy to do ?
    What is your hardware ?

    Thanks

    Regards


    Mac





    Aka Hime wrote:

    In practice I have left the community edition online for months at a time without issue, so in terms of stability you should be safe. In regards to the linux raid (I am assuming that clearos uses mdadm (it is installed by default) and that you are doing software raid), I have run my own file server in raid 6 off of that raid software for years and never had an issue (did well with everything including disk failures). You can also configure it to alert via email on events aswell, which is useful to monitor array health.

    One thing to note however is that the raid will add extra overhead to the system (only important if being used heavily for other things aswell), and your boot disk wont be in the raid normally (as the os is what launches the software, it cant do so until it is started.). Also it might require using the command line as i am unsure how much of the process the GUI will actually do.


    ### Disk Monitoring ###
    For a Raid array I also recommend installing smartmontools ("yum install smartmontools", unlike the GUI App version this is free) to monitor the disks. You can configure this to send email alerts when events occur aswell as regularly test the disks. If you need a mail relay (an smtp server) to send through due to ISP blocking you can use Mandrill (free) for this, on clearos7 you simply go to system -> settings -> mailsettings in the web interface to configure this.

    ##### Sample smartmontools config#####
    /dev/sda -a -d sat -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -m email@address.com

    This runs a short drive test daily and a long test once a week for /dev/sda. If you want to change this the default config file lists the settings that can be used, this also needs to be altered to reflect your disk setup.

    NFS/Torrent Engines are available via apps like flexshare & Transmission which are also free for the community edition. The community edition should be able to meet your software needs.

    Useful resources (might refer to different linux distro, however the process is much the same)

    Command Cheatsheet
    http://www.ducea.com/2009/03/08/mdadm-cheat-sheet/
    http://bryanesmith.com/docs/mdadm/
    http://blog.mbentley.net/2010/11/creating-a-raid-5-array-in-linux-with-mdadm/
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    Monday, December 21 2015, 10:04 AM - #Permalink
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    Until 7.x came out the choice was only between Professional and Community. Home is a new incarnation which should provide an additional layer of stability and slightly different features. In all honesty the Community version had been very stable over the years. Most issues appear with major upgrades and you can always put them off (I'm still on 6.x). My use is as a family file server, shared e-mails and a VPN endpoint for other extended family and it is great. I do do other stuff as well which is beyond the standard implementation so I occasionally get myself into trouble and have to fix it, but the basic stuff, once up and running, is great.
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    Monday, December 21 2015, 10:01 AM - #Permalink
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    The community Edition should be fine.

    I haven't tried the RAID Software, but so long as you have the qualifying hardware, it should just work.

    I haven't played about with NFS much, but that should work without any issues

    For the rest of the features you mentioned, it works fine. I have been running it fine at home for about 5 years now and in an organisation for about 6.5 years with only minor issues which have, for the most been resolved with the help of the community forums or by upgrading to the newer version.
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    Mac Gram
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    Sunday, December 20 2015, 10:03 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi,

    Thanks for your feedback.
    Community version seems to be interesting..for tests to discover clearos.....but i am not sure that it is enough stable to take it as the reliable version to implement a personal NAS.
    Maybe i am mistaken.....

    Could be fine to discuss with any person who use this community version.....and see some drowbacks......

    Thanks

    Mac
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    Sunday, December 20 2015, 09:10 PM - #Permalink
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    As you appear to be comfortable with the command line or, at least, prepared to try, I'd go for the Community version. I knew nothing about Linux before I started with ClearOS so you're starting from miles ahead of where I did.
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