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Hi all,

Pleased to report that the release of ClearOS Community Edition 6.3 beta (ISOs) is imminent...possibly tomorrow! As anyone who has used these forums will know, the introduction of the mail stack, powered by Zarafa, is the highlight.

And if you're aware of that, you'll know that much of the integration work for Zarafa has been done by a volunteer ClearFoundation Community member, Tim Burgess, in the 5.x series. Prior to version 6, we didn't have a model to support and foster community contributions. With the huge effort Pete et al have put into the framework and developer docs, and with the introduction of Marketplace, we do.

I was able to hookup for a beer with Tim when I was in the UK last month. It was interesting getting his perspective on ClearOS and the Community...More recently, Mike and Tim batted around different ideas of how Zarafa Community app should enter the Marketplace. We all agreed it would be nice to give Tim more than just a beer (I hope I picked up the tab...I really can't remember) for all the time he's put into the project...not just on the Zarafa app integration, but in supporting users via the forums.

The net result is that Zarafa Community Edition is going to have a modest ($US 10), one-time fee to purchase and download the app. The bulk of the proceeds from users who purchase this app from the Marketplace will go directly to Tim - ClearCenter is only slightly more than a payment facilitator.

I'll be interested to see what the community 'pulse' will be on this decision...it's my hope that many of you will understand that this is good for Tim, good for future developers to the ClearOS platform, good for ClearOS --- and ultimately, good for ClearOS users.

Cheers,

Ben
Tuesday, June 26 2012, 11:52 PM
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    Monday, March 18 2013, 10:58 PM - #Permalink
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    Well my issue is resolved. ISP (Frontier) moved my buisness class dsl down to a res dsl without telling me.... thus blocking inbound port 25.
    They are putting my buisness class back in place on Thursday.

    Ive been pulling my hair out for the last two weeks. I could just kick these people in the sack
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    Sunday, March 17 2013, 09:29 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Patrick - the stores will not necessarily match the same username any more, there is an additional step as outlined in my link to use the zarafa-admin command to unhook and hook stores to the right places as required.
    http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,40/func,view/id,30195/limit,10/limitstart,450/#41319
    or
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    Sunday, March 17 2013, 07:56 AM - #Permalink
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    Hi Patrick, it should be
    /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/mysql -u zarafa -p zarafa < /tmp/zarafadump.sql

    As you are importing it into the 'zarafa' database within system-mysql, and then you will be prompted to input your database password.

    If you have an existing mail zarafa database you may need to drop that one first (syntax can be found on the net as I don't have it to hand) before importing.


    I think my dumping did go wrong. the dumpfile size is to small as it looks now.
    will try another dumping no (with the help of Nick) the old server almost running up without network errors.

    ---- UPDATE ----
    i've succeed with the database recovery. The file was only 20kb and on must be 76mb (still small...)
    after dropping the database i've imported the dump. My mails were put in my wifes mail box and my mailbox was empty.
    very strange, but my most important emails have been recovered.
    Moved every thing to my mailbox using outlook and i works now again.
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    Saturday, March 16 2013, 08:39 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Patrick, it should be
    /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/mysql -u zarafa -p zarafa < /tmp/zarafadump.sql

    As you are importing it into the 'zarafa' database within system-mysql, and then you will be prompted to input your database password.

    If you have an existing mail zarafa database you may need to drop that one first (syntax can be found on the net as I don't have it to hand) before importing.
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    Saturday, March 16 2013, 07:42 AM - #Permalink
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    I've found your instruction (sorry) HERE.

    When i try to import my old database from the old system (clearos 6.3) to my new system (clearos 6.3) it will not succeed.


    /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/mysql -u zarafa -p password < /tmp/zarafadump.sql

    ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '' at line 1


    what could be the problem.

    zarafa is working proberly and i get access to webaccess
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    Friday, March 15 2013, 06:22 PM - #Permalink
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    Hi Patrick - you can create a mail database dump using system-mysql in ClearOS 6.3. You'll need the zarafa database password first...
    grep password /etc/zarafa/server.cfg
    /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/mysqldump -u zarafa -p -v --single-transaction zarafa > /var/tmp/zarafadump.sql


    Sorry Tim,

    But i couldn't find (for me clearly enough) how to i import the created database dump into zarafa.
    don't want to make mistakes with this.
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    Friday, March 15 2013, 02:15 AM - #Permalink
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    Tim does the order of the A records matter in my clear account settings. Base would be the first? If so then my mx should match the first A record ie "server"
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 05:34 PM - #Permalink
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    ok thanks Tim. Im setting the parameters for this new domain the-killians.com

    So far ive got the outbound working.
    I think something is hosed up in webaccess

    How can I uninstall it and reinstall it?

    EDIT:
    Isnt there a newer version of Zarafa out to upgrade to?
    Also I recall in a previous version of zarafa that some items werent turned on. Is that still the case

    ie...
    Zarafa Delivery Agent Running
    Zarafa iCal Gateway Running
    Zarafa POP/IMAP Gateway Running
    Zarafa Quota Monitor Running
    Zarafa Search Indexer Running
    Zarafa Server Running
    Zarafa Spooler Running

    or are they all to be running now
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 01:43 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Jeff, its OK if both exist and match IP...but do you want mail to be sent to user1@server.sharkster.org? or user1@sharkster.org. If the latter you'll need an MX record or A record for the base of your domain
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:42 AM - #Permalink
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    I have an A record and an mx record both are identical. server.sharkster.org
    Would they conflict?
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:40 AM - #Permalink
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    I just registered a new domain through clearos today. the-killians.com
    You think it best I wipe this server and reinstall using the new domain info from clearos?
    Currently my sharkster.org domain is going through register.com
    Currently I dont have anything loaded on this server yet that needs to be saved or migrated.
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:13 AM - #Permalink
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    Your log entries are all empty (i.e. they show no incoming mail). My hunch is your problem is with the DNS record / port 25 access?
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:11 AM - #Permalink
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    If you want to see the MX record (if any) for your domain run 'dig MX domainname.com'. You don't need an MX record if you have a valid A record for your domain - but it appears your A record for the root of your domain 'sharkster.org' is not setup.

    IP's are usually tied to MAC addresses, or kept until the lease time expires (24hr?) depending on the ISP. Here on a cable modem I have to turn everything off for 30seconds, then power the modem back on, WAIT 30 secs! then boot the server up to get a new IP... the order is important. You can find your IP lease information here /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.leases ...you can also force your connection down and up by running 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0'

    Having port 25 blocked is a problem - as incoming mail will attempt to connect direct to your SMTP server at port 25, unless you use some port redirection service to change it upstream. Are Frontier your ISP? do you have a mail forwarding / redirection service with them?
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    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:06 AM - #Permalink
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    Its not seeing anything coming in:

    [root@server ~]# tail -f /var/log/maillog
    Mar 7 13:10:24 server amavis[2279]: Using primary internal av scanner code for ClamAV-clamd
    Mar 7 13:10:24 server amavis[2279]: Found secondary av scanner ClamAV-clamscan at /usr/bin/clamscan
    Mar 7 13:10:24 server amavis[2279]: Creating db in /var/lib/amavis/db/; BerkeleyDB 0.43, libdb 4.7
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postgrey[2300]: Process Backgrounded
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postgrey[2300]: 2013/03/07-13:10:25 postgrey (type Net::Server::Multiplex) starting! pid(2300)
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postgrey[2300]: Binding to UNIX socket file /var/spool/postfix/postgrey/socket using SOCK_STREAM#012
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postgrey[2300]: Setting gid to "486 486"
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postgrey[2300]: Setting uid to "486"
    Mar 7 13:10:25 server postfix/postfix-script[2375]: starting the Postfix mail system
    Mar 7 13:10:26 server postfix/master[2376]: daemon started -- version 2.6.6, configuration /etc/postfix


    system log filtered"

    Log Entry
    Mar 6 03:21:27 server mailfilter: starting up (sender=root@sharkster.org, recipients=root@sharkster.org, client_address
    Mar 6 03:21:27 server mailfilter: successfully completed (sender=root@sharkster.org, recipients=root@sharkster.org, cli
    Mar 6 04:26:02 server mailfilter: starting up (sender=root@sharkster.org, recipients=root@sharkster.org, client_address
    Mar 6 04:26:02 server mailfilter: successfully completed (sender=root@sharkster.org, recipients=root@sharkster.org, cli

    zarafa dagent log:

    Wed Mar 6 05:38:57 2013: [ 2435] LMTP service will now exit
    Wed Mar 6 05:38:57 2013: [ 2435] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Wed Mar 6 05:40:59 2013: [ 2460] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2460
    Wed Mar 6 05:53:48 2013: [ 2460] LMTP service will now exit
    Wed Mar 6 05:53:48 2013: [ 2460] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Wed Mar 6 06:05:23 2013: [ 2439] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2439
    Wed Mar 6 21:40:48 2013: [ 2439] LMTP service will now exit
    Wed Mar 6 21:40:48 2013: [ 2439] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Wed Mar 6 21:42:49 2013: [ 2435] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2435
    Wed Mar 6 21:54:50 2013: [ 2435] LMTP service will now exit
    Wed Mar 6 21:54:50 2013: [ 2435] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Wed Mar 6 21:56:50 2013: [ 2388] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2388
    Wed Mar 6 22:10:15 2013: [ 2388] LMTP service will now exit
    Wed Mar 6 22:10:15 2013: [ 2388] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Wed Mar 6 22:12:16 2013: [ 2408] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2408
    Thu Mar 7 09:53:22 2013: [ 2408] LMTP service will now exit
    Thu Mar 7 09:53:22 2013: [ 2408] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: [ 2420] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2420
    Thu Mar 7 10:18:11 2013: [ 2420] LMTP service will now exit
    Thu Mar 7 10:18:11 2013: [ 2420] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:10 2013: [ 2441] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2441
    Thu Mar 7 13:03:38 2013: [ 2441] LMTP service will now exit
    Thu Mar 7 13:03:38 2013: [ 2441] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:16 2013: [12345] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 12345
    Thu Mar 7 13:08:28 2013: [12345] LMTP service will now exit
    Thu Mar 7 13:08:28 2013: [12345] LMTP service shutdown complete
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: [ 2436] Starting zarafa-dagent LMTP mode version 7,0,8,35178 (35178), pid 2436



    When I edit any user the mail alias is blank
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    Thursday, March 07 2013, 11:50 PM - #Permalink
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    so far "dig sharkster.org"
    root@server ~]# dig sharkster.org

    ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6.3 <<>> sharkster.org
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 5455
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;sharkster.org. IN A

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    sharkster.org. 10800 IN SOA dns245.a.register.com. root.register.com. 200102562 10800 86400 604800 21600

    ;; Query time: 109 msec
    ;; SERVER: 184.16.4.22#53(184.16.4.22)
    ;; WHEN: Thu Mar 7 17:42:22 2013
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 93

    EDIT:
    I ran server.sharkster.org and I get this back:

    [root@server ~]# dig server.sharkster.org

    ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6.3 <<>> server.sharkster.org
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62635
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 1

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;server.sharkster.org. IN A

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    server.sharkster.org. 21600 IN A 50.50.72.86

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    sharkster.org. 85811 IN NS dns245.a.register.com.
    sharkster.org. 85811 IN NS dns014.c.register.com.
    sharkster.org. 85811 IN NS dns010.d.register.com.
    sharkster.org. 85811 IN NS dns176.b.register.com.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    dns245.a.register.com. 60 IN A 216.21.231.245

    ;; Query time: 133 msec
    ;; SERVER: 184.16.4.22#53(184.16.4.22)
    ;; WHEN: Thu Mar 7 17:52:05 2013
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 174

    Something appears to be hosed up here.
    I figured something might be goofy with the ip so last night (several times) i tried to dump that ip and renew. It keeps giving me this same ip back.
    I figured ok this linux server has somewhat of an affect on the dhcp ip's issued by me isp so I plugged my laptop straight into the dsl modem and sure enough it gave it a completely different ip. I left it undone for a few hours and then plugged the server back in and rebooted. Damn thing gave me the same ip back. I unplugged everything and left it down overnight. Boot up in the morning and it gives me the same damn ip as I listed., It will not release.

    Port 25 isnt used by frontier. They use 587 however I have 25 and 587 open.
    Let me check this other stuff you mentioned
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    Thursday, March 07 2013, 11:32 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Jeff1965, couple of things to check:-

    1. is your DNS record setup ok for your domain? i.e. if you run 'dig yourdomain.com' do you get the right IP address back?
    2. Is port 25 open for incoming mail? have you check whether its blocked by your ISP?
    3. Does mail actually arrive, use command 'tail -f /var/log/maillog' to watch it live and send mail to your domain...if it logs entries then at least you can verify its arrival
    4. Does the mail get handled properly by postfix and sent to zarafa? you should find a corresponding log in /var/log/system for the "mailfilter: successfully completed" and also at /var/log/zarafa/dagent.log "Delivered message to 'USER'"
    5. Have you set the mail domain in the webconfig first System > Mail Settings? (if you edit a user does the user have alias@domain.com or a blank domain entry?) This query is related to an earlier issue I saw with ldap
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    Thursday, March 07 2013, 11:25 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Patrick - you can create a mail database dump using system-mysql in ClearOS 6.3. You'll need the zarafa database password first...
    grep password /etc/zarafa/server.cfg
    /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/mysqldump -u zarafa -p -v --single-transaction zarafa > /var/tmp/zarafadump.sql
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    Thursday, March 07 2013, 11:10 PM - #Permalink
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    I cant figure it out. I cant get a single email to come in on any user account.
    I can send mail from user to user internally but not one single email from the outside.
    In 5.2 as soon as the user was created I had emails coming right in.
    Something is broken or I didnt config this thing right. Ive gone over and over it. Im not seeing it.
    My outbound relay hasnt been set yet through my isp in the main.cf file
    I look in my zarafa server log and this is all I get:

    Wed Mar 6 22:12:16 2013: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's sta
    Wed Mar 6 22:12:17 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 2382
    Thu Mar 7 09:53:26 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Mar 7 09:53:27 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Mar 7 09:53:29 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2386
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:25 2013: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's sta
    Thu Mar 7 09:55:26 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 2393
    Thu Mar 7 10:18:13 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Mar 7 10:18:14 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Mar 7 10:18:16 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2406
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:09 2013: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's sta
    Thu Mar 7 10:20:10 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 2413
    Thu Mar 7 13:04:05 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Mar 7 13:04:05 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Mar 7 13:04:07 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 12186
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's sta
    Thu Mar 7 13:05:04 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 12191
    Thu Mar 7 13:08:30 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Mar 7 13:08:31 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Mar 7 13:08:33 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2402
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Mar 7 13:10:28 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
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    Thursday, March 07 2013, 09:42 AM - #Permalink
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    Tim,

    How can i make a backup of my zarafa database with the new Clearos 6.3
    I´ve tried the instruction from v5.2 but this didn´t work.
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    Friday, February 15 2013, 09:57 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Patrick, yes but with caution because your installed app version doesn't support it fully...so you'll be left to mange things from the command line. Also upgrading to 7.1.x will update your system database and you won't be able to downgrade, or import 7.0.x databases.
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    Tim,
    Can repo from your testing being used.
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    Hi Patrick, it's coming in 6.4 beta 2 :-) and exists as a tracker entry
    http://tracker.clearfoundation.com/view.php?id=740

    The upgrade required some app tweaks due to package naming (zarafa-search now replaces zarafa-indexer)

    P.S Latest version is 7.1.3
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    Hi Tim,
    Any plans of lounging an update to 7.1.11 for clearfos 6.3 or do you suggest a manual update.
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    Saturday, January 26 2013, 04:17 AM - #Permalink
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    Just came back from the server migration..(it was doozey). MAJOR thanks tim for your advice. What I realised was due to ldap peoples stores were being hooked to different users after restoring the database which is why it seemed like they didn't have anything.

    It was a long process of unhooking and re-hooking but we finally got it done and migrated so a very successful and happy job done on our part now we just have to get it live after making sure it's stable for a week and were good to go. I think if I need to do this again I will make some scripts that will un-hook and re-hook mailboxes for me as it is quite a tedius job.

    Good to know things can be recovered from scratch.
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    I have been paying attention to those threads luckily my clients have 7.0.8. as I never upgraded them to 7.1. cuase of the issue when 7.1. came out for 5.2 and they are quite a big deal to us and they were stable.

    I did notice some stores that needed to be rehooked however some users did not seem to show, it could be however that the mysql dump didn't go as well as expected so this may of been the case. Thanks for these notes Tim as always thanks providing support.
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    Friday, January 25 2013, 02:10 PM - #Permalink
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    You can migrate successfuly between ClearOS versions ( I have here before ) but beware Zarafa versions, at present ClearOS 6.3 ships with Zarafa 7.0.8 - we are hoping to bump up to 7.1.2 with ClearOS 6.4. ClearOS 5.2 can use up to 7.1.1...some users have found issues importing databases onto an older version of Zarafa. See Guus experience above in this thread.

    You will also need to rehook all the stores again, as the user UID values will have changed, so Zarafa may not be able to identify which stores

    I posted some of my migration notes here - might be of use
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRYXXJlTjqA-zawGl_ODLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit
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    Friday, January 25 2013, 12:26 PM - #Permalink
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    Thanks tim for the quick feedback I am actually doing a migration today (moving from 5.2 to 6.3) and this puts alot less stress on me as they have paid for licenses.

    While your around I thought you might be able to give me some advice if you got some time..

    This migration were doing I've tried to do mysql dumps of the old server and then restore it onto clearos 6.3 however this hasn't been successful.

    Even though I have successfully moved the /var/lib/zarafa attachments folder over

    mailboxes either are half the size they should be or the proper size or sometimes empty.

    I do have alternatives for the migration (imapsync and zarafa-backup restore) However it isn't ideal for disaster recovery as the database would have their signatures and personal settings.

    Do you know if there are problems with migrating zarafa if the mysql version is older then the one you are migrating to? (I can assume 5.2 has an older version then 6.3)
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    Friday, January 25 2013, 12:04 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi James, thanks for the feedback - on closer inpsection it appears to be a bug (it should only show users with zarafaAccount enabled in LDAP)

    You can verify which users have Zarafa access by running 'zarafa-admin -l'

    I'll file a bug report, for now the work around is edit /etc/zarafa/ldap.cfg, change following line to:-
    ldap_user_search_filter =  (zarafaAccount=1)

    Then run 'service zarafa-server restart' and run 'zarafa-admin-l' again to see the change - all non Zarafa users should be hidden and excluded from license counts
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    Friday, January 25 2013, 08:16 AM - #Permalink
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    Tim I'm having some problems with zarafa for clearos 6.x

    Even though I select user disabled in the gui when I create a user zarafa makes a user anyway which isn't ideal as they have a license and they don't need to waste anymore users.

    Have you come across this problem before and know how to resolve this?
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    Zarafa, Fetchmail and catchall ISP email.

    hai, i have read many recommendation of how to setting zarafa,
    here's the situation.

    i have a domain with mx record pointing to free google.apps, and has 1 account (bulkmail) specific for catchall.
    my clearos connected to ADSL line and trying to fetch the email from that bulkmail account and sent to zarafa.

    i've read many recommendation for this setting, the closest solution is to create fetchmail by 1 to 1 account,
    http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,14/func,view/id,44365/ 


    is there any way that we can use fetchmail and using envelope to deliver the mail to zarafa ?
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    Friday, January 11 2013, 10:22 AM - #Permalink
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    Thanks - yes it was php-eaccelerator that caused the problem.

    .. which is great for moodle, but have added the following lines to Zarafa's .htaccess and it has solved the problem.

    php_flag eaccelerator.enable 0
    php_flag eaccelerator.optimizer 0
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    question will zarafa integrate folder with user folders in clearos ? I am currently using zimbra and breifcase I can web dav into and share with others, but want one location for all information and share what needs to be shared.
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    Guus - if you still have the patience, install Zarafa 7.1.1 first manually as above using yum, then install the app via the Marketplace. It should work OK, and you'll have the newer version so you can then import your mail.

    Peter, happy new year to you! do you by any chance use php-eaccelerator? it has been known to cause similar problems. You might find a clue at /var/log/httpd/access.log.

    Do you have any kind of reverse proxy setup or other non standard config?. There are lots of bug fixes in the minor releases which may help too, so an upgrade may help. One last thought have you tried disabling / enabling the zarafa-indexer service?
    http://download.zarafa.com/community/final/7.0/final-changelog-7.0.txt

    There are issues with database versions between major .1 releases, such as 7.0.x and 7.1.x or 6.40.x but not usually in minor releases. You would find clues in /var/log/zarafa/server.log after you restart the zarafa-server service.
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    Hello Guus

    See that you're a lot further now, so my own how-to is irrelevent, however I will be looking forward to your final conclusion : - )

    Hi Tim - Happy New Year also. I have to report that I still have the problem of the little red outlined box, bottom left in webaccess, that says Server Error 500 when I click on certain emails, but also when I open some notes, contacts, etc.

    I found this zarafa forum thread, https://forums.zarafa.com/showthread.php?2445-solved-HTTP-Fehler-500-Internal-Server-Error, which although it’s rather old, does mention a problem with the different versions - our current is 7.05 and the clearos 6.3 is 7.08. Could this be the problem - i.e do you know if the migration between 2 zarafa systems needs to exactly correspond to both versions?

    Greetings

    Peter
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    I don't understand how you have installed the other packages whilst zarafa-client has failed, as they all depend on it!

    What errors were presented when you installed using yum?

    You can try the single rpm with 'rpm -Uvh zarafa-client-7.1.1-37812.x86_64.rpm' (assuming it exists in your local folder)


    Hello Tim,

    to me it also is a mistery :( . All the packages where in the local directory and installation is done with 'yum localinstall *.rpm' as instructed.
    I've already tried to manually install the client but then the systems tells me that the 7.1.1 client is already installed. And when I try to uninstall the 7.1.1 client the systems says that client 7.0.8 is installed not 7.1.1. So beat me.

    I've now decided to do one last fresh install of the server and wait until update your 6.4 is out so that I can import my old e-mail in this updated version.

    Anyway, thanks for all support.

    Regards,

    Guus
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    I don't understand how you have installed the other packages whilst zarafa-client has failed, as they all depend on it!

    What errors were presented when you installed using yum?

    You can try the single rpm with 'rpm -Uvh zarafa-client-7.1.1-37812.x86_64.rpm' (assuming it exists in your local folder)
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    Guus - sorry to hear of your troubles. I didn't know you had already installed Zarafa 7.1.1

    Anyhow, we are looking to get Zarafa 7.1.2 out shortly for ClearOS6.4. I've uploaded the Zarafa 7.1.1 RPM's here to enable you to upgrade and get your server working again. Download the zarafa, php-mapi and python-mapi RPM's using wget to a local temporary folder, then run 'yum localinstall *.rpm'
    ftp://timburgess.net/repo/clearos/6.3/testing/



    Tim,

    when I try the local install I get following error message:

    Error: Package: zarafa-search-7.1.1-37812.x86_64 (/zarafa-search-7.1.1-37812.x86_64)
    Requires: libkyotocabinet.so.16()(64bit)
    You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
    You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

    So I also downloaded kyotocabinet-lib and kyotocabinet. Now all dependencies are met and server is updated to zarafa 7.1.1 ending with the following error: zarafa-client-7.0.8-35178.x86_64 was supposed to be removed but is not!
    and therefore the client isn't updated.

    I removed the complete zarafa installation and did a new localinstall with following output

    Installed:
    php-mapi.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    python-mapi.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-contacts.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-dagent.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-dev.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-gateway.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-ical.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-libarchiver.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-libs.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-licensed.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-monitor.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-search.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-spooler.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-utils.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-webaccess.noarch 0:7.1.1-37812
    zarafa-webapp.noarch 1:1.1-35663
    zarafa-z-push.noarch 0:2.0.1-2.clearos

    Failed:
    zarafa-client.x86_64 0:7.1.1-37812


    Any cluess?

    Regards,

    Guus
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    Thanks Tim,

    I'll work on it right away.

    Got a working CD in the end after a very slow download. Did a complete new install on the server as from .-x86 iso image and have almost everything up and running exept off course my own mailbox (data).

    Thanks for the support so far.
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    Guus - sorry to hear of your troubles. I didn't know you had already installed Zarafa 7.1.1

    Anyhow, we are looking to get Zarafa 7.1.2 out shortly for ClearOS6.4. I've uploaded the Zarafa 7.1.1 RPM's here to enable you to upgrade and get your server working again. Download the zarafa, php-mapi and python-mapi RPM's using wget to a local temporary folder, then run 'yum localinstall *.rpm'
    ftp://timburgess.net/repo/clearos/6.3/testing/

    Please note that these are provided in advance of the app upgrade, so the zarafa-indexer service will no longer work from the webconfig. (Now known as zarafa-search, and can be operated from the command line)

    If you have continued problems with your CD / DVD drive I suggest you start another thread to prevent polluting this (long) one already :) When you burn the image (CD) make sure you choose 'disc-at-once' (DAO), and of course check the md5 and make sure your ISO image is not corrupt.
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    Try a USB install if you can. Have a look at this thread for one method and follow the link for the method I used. There is a third method floating around somewhere as well.
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    Since there seems to be a conflict with my installation and zarafa import from COS5.2 zarafa 711I've decided to do a fresh re install.

    Burnt a CD and later a DVD from the iso file (32-bit system)
    After formatingen the harddrives and at the moment the system should start to install the files the installation software asks for installation cd nr 1 and throws out the from iso burned dvd.

    Why?
    Is there for any reason something wrong with the image or does it have anything to do with a dvd player connected to a sata port (I can hardly imagin this is the case) because this was the last change I made in the past day's

    I would appreciate some help.

    Regards,

    Guus
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    Roland wrote:
    Guus on COS 6.3 zarafa version is 7.0.8 look on few last line from zarafa server log. You can see info about this. tray run zarafa server servive with --ignore-dabase-version, see on log for details. Tim wrote about zarafa update from epel repo on forum ask him about 7.1.1 ver update for cos 6.3 idont know if runing zarafa with ignore database version is safe and no problematic i newer test it.


    Hello Roland,

    I've tried running with this option but without any succes. Server still doesn't start.

    This means that if database version is zarafaserver dependent that for now my mail is lost until I get this update to zarafa 7.1.1. on COS 6.3

    I'l try to import the sql dump I made to see if this is working.

    Regards,

    Guus
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    Guus on COS 6.3 zarafa version is 7.0.8 look on few last line from zarafa server log. You can see info about this. tray run zarafa server servive with --ignore-dabase-version, see on log for details. Tim wrote about zarafa update from epel repo on forum ask him about 7.1.1 ver update for cos 6.3 idont know if runing zarafa with ignore database version is safe and no problematic i newer test it.
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    Hello Tim,

    as I wrote before I did a new 6.3 clearos install after losing disc access when I tried to increase discs in the raid configuration.
    My old server was clearos 5.2 with zarafa 7.1.1 installed. I managed to take the files from the /var/lib/zarafa data on my old discs with a filerecovery and had already an sql dump from last saturday. This one I'am trying to install.
    I did the restore according your instructions regarding "Zarafa Migration Clearos5.2 to Clearos 6.3 for as far as applicable becaus my 5.2 server isn't running anymore.

    The errors from January the 1st where incident and now today I only see an database version conflict reported.
    Output of server.log:

    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 17969
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Create database zarafa
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Create table: acl
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Create table: hierarchy
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Create table: names
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:15 2012: Create table: mvproperties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: tproperties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: properties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: delayedupdate
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: receivefolder
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: stores
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: users
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: outgoingqueue
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:17 2012: Create table: lob
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: searchresults
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: changes
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: syncs
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: versions
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: indexedproperties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:19 2012: Create table: settings
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: object
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: objectproperty
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: objectmvproperty
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: objectrelation
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: singleinstances
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: abchanges
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: syncedmessages
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:21 2012: Create table: clientupdatestatus
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: users
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: stores
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: hierarchy
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: properties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: acl
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: settings
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Add table data for: indexedproperties
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Database is created
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sat Dec 29 19:42:23 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 18083
    Sat Dec 29 20:14:55 2012: Started to create store (userid=3, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:14:56 2012: Finished create store (userid=3, storeid=3, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:04 2012: Started to create store (userid=4, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:04 2012: Finished create store (userid=4, storeid=28, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:04 2012: Started to create store (userid=5, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:04 2012: Finished create store (userid=5, storeid=30, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:06 2012: /etc/zarafa/userscripts/createuser[3156]: User store 'guus' created.
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:18 2012: /etc/zarafa/userscripts/createuser[3230]: User store 'ineke' created.
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:19 2012: /etc/zarafa/userscripts/createuser[3234]: User store 'bart' created.
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:19 2012: Started to create store (userid=6, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:20 2012: Finished create store (userid=6, storeid=81, type=0)
    Sat Dec 29 20:15:34 2012: /etc/zarafa/userscripts/createuser[3243]: User store 'richard' created.
    Sat Dec 29 21:50:06 2012: Shutting down.
    Sat Dec 29 21:50:07 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sat Dec 29 21:50:09 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2192
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:30 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sat Dec 29 23:52:34 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 2201
    Sun Dec 30 00:30:53 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 00:30:53 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 00:30:55 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:24 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2211
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:24 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:24 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:24 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:25 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:25 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sun Dec 30 00:33:29 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 2218
    Sun Dec 30 00:47:01 2012: Client requested license but zarafa-licensed could not be contacted
    Sun Dec 30 01:00:09 2012: Previous message logged 32 times
    Sun Dec 30 01:00:09 2012: Started to create store (userid=7, type=0)
    Sun Dec 30 01:00:09 2012: Finished create store (userid=7, storeid=107, type=0)
    Sun Dec 30 01:00:20 2012: /etc/zarafa/userscripts/createuser[4683]: User store 'marktplaats' created.
    Sun Dec 30 11:20:18 2012: 0x000000ad246360: SQL reconnect
    Sun Dec 30 12:21:08 2012: Client requested license but zarafa-licensed could not be contacted
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:36 2012: Previous message logged 19 times
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:36 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:36 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:38 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 9635
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:39 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:40 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 9639
    Sun Dec 30 13:37:48 2012: Client requested license but zarafa-licensed could not be contacted
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:26 2012: Previous message logged 2 times
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:26 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:27 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:29 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 14461
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sun Dec 30 14:05:32 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 14465
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:07 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:08 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15093
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sun Dec 30 14:11:10 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 15097
    Sun Dec 30 14:18:52 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 14:18:52 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 14:18:54 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 2197
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Sun Dec 30 14:34:47 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 2213
    Sun Dec 30 14:39:34 2012: Client requested license but zarafa-licensed could not be contacted
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:06 2012: Previous message logged 6 times
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:06 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:07 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:09 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 930
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Sun Dec 30 21:43:22 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 935
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:49 2012: Shutting down.
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:50 2012: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Server shutdown complete.
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 1864
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Sun Dec 30 21:53:52 2012: Startup succeeded on pid 1869
    Mon Dec 31 08:59:33 2012: 0x000000ad11a8f0: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000b5708278: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x00000008f1ab98: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad302858: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad308c70: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x00000008f1a6b8: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad30f858: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad10bfb0: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad10e3c0: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 02:45:00 2013: 0x000000ad100c58: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 03:19:56 2013: 0x000000ad11a8f0: SQL reconnect
    Tue Jan 1 21:52:02 2013: 0x000000ad30f858: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, Query Size: 1007, Query: "SELECT count(*),mvproperties.tag,mvproperties.type,group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_ulong),':', mvproperties.val_ulong ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_string),':', mvproperties.val_string ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_binary),':', mvproperties.val_binary ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_double),':', mvproperties.val_double ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_longint),':', mvproperties.val_longint ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_hi),':', mvproperties.val_hi ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_lo),':', mvproperties.val_lo ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), hierarchyid FROM mvproperties JOIN hierarchy ON hierarchy.id=mvproperties.hierarchyid WHERE hierarchy.parent=2750 GROUP BY hierarchyid, tag"
    Tue Jan 1 21:52:02 2013: 0x000000ad10bfb0: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, Query Size: 1007, Query: "SELECT count(*),mvproperties.tag,mvproperties.type,group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_ulong),':', mvproperties.val_ulong ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_string),':', mvproperties.val_string ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_binary),':', mvproperties.val_binary ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_double),':', mvproperties.val_double ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_longint),':', mvproperties.val_longint ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_hi),':', mvproperties.val_hi ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_lo),':', mvproperties.val_lo ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), hierarchyid FROM mvproperties JOIN hierarchy ON hierarchy.id=mvproperties.hierarchyid WHERE hierarchy.parent=2750 GROUP BY hierarchyid, tag"
    Tue Jan 1 21:52:02 2013: 0x000000ad308c70: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, Query Size: 1007, Query: "SELECT count(*),mvproperties.tag,mvproperties.type,group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_ulong),':', mvproperties.val_ulong ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_string),':', mvproperties.val_string ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_binary),':', mvproperties.val_binary ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_double),':', mvproperties.val_double ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_longint),':', mvproperties.val_longint ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_hi),':', mvproperties.val_hi ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_lo),':', mvproperties.val_lo ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), hierarchyid FROM mvproperties JOIN hierarchy ON hierarchy.id=mvproperties.hierarchyid WHERE hierarchy.parent=2750 GROUP BY hierarchyid, tag"
    Tue Jan 1 21:52:02 2013: 0x00000008f1ab98: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, Query Size: 1007, Query: "SELECT count(*),mvproperties.tag,mvproperties.type,group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_ulong),':', mvproperties.val_ulong ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_string),':', mvproperties.val_string ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_binary),':', mvproperties.val_binary ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_double),':', mvproperties.val_double ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_longint),':', mvproperties.val_longint ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_hi),':', mvproperties.val_hi ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_lo),':', mvproperties.val_lo ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), hierarchyid FROM mvproperties JOIN hierarchy ON hierarchy.id=mvproperties.hierarchyid WHERE hierarchy.parent=2750 GROUP BY hierarchyid, tag"
    Tue Jan 1 21:52:02 2013: 0x00000008f1a6b8: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, Query Size: 1007, Query: "SELECT count(*),mvproperties.tag,mvproperties.type,group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_ulong),':', mvproperties.val_ulong ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_string),':', mvproperties.val_string ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_binary),':', mvproperties.val_binary ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_double),':', mvproperties.val_double ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_longint),':', mvproperties.val_longint ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_hi),':', mvproperties.val_hi ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), group_concat(length(mvproperties.val_lo),':', mvproperties.val_lo ORDER BY mvproperties.orderid SEPARATOR ''), hierarchyid FROM mvproperties JOIN hierarchy ON hierarchy.id=mvproperties.hierarchyid WHERE hierarchy.parent=2750 GROUP BY hierarchyid, tag"
    Tue Jan 1 22:00:28 2013: 0x000000ad302858: SQL Failed: Got error 28 from storage engine, QTue Jan 1 22:04:30 2013: Shutting down.
    Tue Jan 1 22:04:30 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Tue Jan 1 22:04:32 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 26256
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's started.
    Tue Jan 1 22:09:29 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 26266
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:54 2013: Shutting down.
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:55 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 8469
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:57 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Wed Jan 2 10:51:58 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 8474
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:33 2013: Shutting down.
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:34 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:36 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 13014
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:39 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Wed Jan 2 13:50:40 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 13019
    Thu Jan 3 12:51:07 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Jan 3 12:51:07 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Jan 3 12:51:09 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 14412
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:17 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:18 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:06:18 2013: Startup succeeded on pid 14417
    Thu Jan 3 13:09:28 2013: Shutting down.
    Thu Jan 3 13:09:29 2013: Still waiting for 8 threads to exit
    Thu Jan 3 13:09:31 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:50 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 14795
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:50 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:50 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:50 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:22:51 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15054
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:13 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15286
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:25:31 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15311
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:26:02 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15547
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:34:55 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:50 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 15654
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:50 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:50 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:36:51 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 16088
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 13:37:06 2013: Server shutdown complete.
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Starting zarafa-server version 7,0,8,35178, pid 16986
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Listening for priority pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa-prio
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Listening for pipe connections on /var/run/zarafa
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Listening for TCP connections on port 236
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Listening for SSL connections on port 237
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Connection to database 'zarafa' succeeded
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: zarafa-licensed is running, but no license key was found. Not all commercial features will be available.
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: WARNING: Database version (36420) is newer than the server version (62)
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: You can force the server to start with --ignore-database-version-conflict
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Warning, you can lose data! If you don't know what you're doing, you shouldn't be using this option!
    Thu Jan 3 14:28:59 2013: Server shutdown complete.
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    Thursday, January 03 2013, 01:33 PM - #Permalink
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    Guus - please post the output from your logs (/var/log/zarafa/server.log) to figure out what is going wrong

    How and why did you restore your database? what version of ClearOS etc.
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    First of all I wish everyone the best for 2013.

    This morning I restored my 5.2 zarafa database. In de /var/lib/zarafa dir I had to remove some directorys with files that had corrupt file-names through which the server flipt.

    Imported the sql dump from my 5.2 release as instructed. Gave in putty a service zarafa-server start which was followed by a <OK> and after that couldn't log in to my webmail. When I looked in to the webmin I see that the service is not running nor reacting on the start button.

    After this in putty I gave a service zarafa-server restart which ended up with a Stopping <failed> and a start <ok> but still the zarafa server is not running and therefore not accessable.

    Looking forward to receive instructions to investigate and overcome this situation.

    Guus
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    Dave has compiled a document with instructions here
    http://www.clearcenter.com/support/documentation/clearos_guides/enabling_ssl_access_to_zarafa_using_the_zarafa_outlook_client


    And once again working as a charme.

    Thanks a lot for the quick reply.

    Guus
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    Wednesday, January 02 2013, 01:39 AM - #Permalink
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    Keil,

    Login to the ClearCenter portal and navigate to "Systems --> System Subscriptions". Click on the 'Available Licenses' tab and see if your Zarafa Community license that you purchased is in that list...if it is, assign it to the correct system. Once you do, Marketplace will automatically give you a 'credit' to install/update that app without having to pay again.

    Ben
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    Tuesday, January 01 2013, 11:13 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi

    Thanks for the reply but i community version installed, set permissions on marketplace I paid the $ 10 and yet there is no chance of retrieving zarafa community. Since then I delete it and re-registered in the system, unfortunately, it only worsened the situation, although it is on the market place the acl section is empty. What could be the problem?

    Keil Győző
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    Tuesday, January 01 2013, 09:19 PM - #Permalink
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    With testdisk 6.14 I've recovered my /var/lib/zarafa.

    So now before restoring the old database I would like to install the secure connecten for the client. (SSL connection over port 237). Can I follow the instructions as stated by James Joseph under zarafa 7 on clearos 5.2? Or do I have to folllo a different path?

    Looking forward hearing.

    Regards,

    Guus IJzereef
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    Tim Burgess wrote:
    I posted my migration steps for Zarafa 7.1 from ClearOS 5.2 to 6.3 here? they might help
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRYXXJlTjqA-zawGl_ODLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit


    Thanks Tim, I'am gonna look into them.
    At least one problem that I see is that my attachements are packed in a bacula backup file which I have to extract in some way. Any suggestions?

    Regards,

    Guus
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 08:59 PM - #Permalink
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    Hello,

    on my older SE Satio I need to install the ssl certificate by hand in order to get active sync functioning. But in the certificate maneger menu there is no butten to create or export the pem certificate of my site.

    Any suggestions?

    Regards,

    Guus
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 08:20 PM - #Permalink
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    I posted my migration steps for Zarafa 7.1 from ClearOS 5.2 to 6.3 here? they might help
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRYXXJlTjqA-zawGl_ODLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 08:11 PM - #Permalink
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    Hallo Peter,

    it would be nice if you could send me these instructions. I don't have problems with the disc size now, because that was the hole reason to start updating the server.

    My only problem is importing the sql dump of zarafa and the bacula backup file extracting so the attachments can be restored.

    Groet,

    Guus
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 05:21 PM - #Permalink
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    Hello Guus

    Am afraid I'm somewhere warm with only an iPad and a slow 3G so can't easily connect to my howto notes at the moment.

    What I do remember is that we had to dedicate a disk especially to /var/lib/mysql as the zarafa database is so large (we currently have attachments in the database on our 5.2 clearos) We also needed to dedicate another partition to the files directory, before we used the script to move the attachments out, which is reportedly faster.

    We did all the partition mapping with the trusted webmin and putty

    (Re name /var/lib/mysql to mysql-org, create the new dir, mount partition to it and then copy org to the newly mounted dir.

    Generally to copy non database files between servers we would use rsync.

    As I said in my post, it take a long time to restore. A 350 GB database took over 35 hours. If there is not enough space, it will go wrong, so that needs sorting first.

    Will be back at the office on Friday to send any notes if you still need them. Let us know.

    At the moment, although we have successfully got the migration done, the webacess is constantly giving a http error in a little box at the bottom right, so we haven't actually forced all our people to move over yet :-).

    We will look into it when we get back, .. It might be because we have only hooked a couple of users up.

    Groet, Peter
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 04:14 PM - #Permalink
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    Peter Birdsall wrote:
    Hi Tim

    I have succesfully imported a mysql dump from 5.2 to 6.3 -took 36 hours
    Thanks, Peter


    Hi Peter,

    can you please help me out on this import issue?

    This weekend all went wrong that could go wrong, simple increasing discs in raidconfig failed (Clearos 5.2 and zarafa 7.1.1) discs completly lost. Backup available (sql dump) also the attachements (bacula backup file).
    In the end I started yesterday afternoon a fresh install of clearos 6.3. If it wasn't for my windows profile going corrupt this morning (so I couldn't reach my cache mode mail data to make a backup to pst and copie them into the fresh installed zarafa) I've till now spent almost all day reading on the web to find out how to import the database and attachements from the bacula file. Without any success.

    Looking forward to see the way you imported the zarafa dump.

    Thanks in advance,

    Guus
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    Sunday, December 30 2012, 12:53 PM - #Permalink
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    Sorry for the late answer.
    @Ben: No the 10$ are not the Problem. I try to explain again:

    I would like to create a "ClearOS Professional" Evaluation-Subscription with a zarafa community edition. But its not possible to buy the zarafa community edition in the marketplace when you are using the ClearOS-Evaluation.

    In the moment its no problem anymore: the customer bought ClearOS-Professional meanwhile.

    Greetings Alex
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    Tuesday, December 25 2012, 02:46 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi

    Someone help me. Why can not I buy the zarafa community app. Money transfered, set marketplace permissions, and maybe not.

    Thx

    Keil Győző
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    Monday, December 24 2012, 06:16 PM - #Permalink
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    Thank you Ben for answering!

    I submitted a support ticket. I like to try the backup and restore tools of Zarafa. B)
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    Monday, December 24 2012, 01:46 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Marcel,

    The commercial versions of Zarafa have backup and restore tools.

    If you're running ClearOS Professional and would like to evaluate Zarafa Small Business or Professional for 30 days, that's no problem....you do need to submit a support ticket though.

    Ben
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    Monday, December 24 2012, 11:19 AM - #Permalink
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    Hi Ben,

    Can you easily backup mail and restore on a new server install with Zarafa Small Business. If so is it possible to evaluate Zarafa Small Business if you already have a running Professional Edition?
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    Sunday, December 23 2012, 11:11 PM - #Permalink
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    @Tim - I think he was interested in evaluating it before committing to the $10.

    The Zarafa Community Edition doesn't have much of a 'licensing engine' on it, so to have an evaluation and then going asking for the payment after the fact isn't practical. If you *really* don't want to spend $10 on the app and want to play with more than what is available from Zarafa's demo servers or our own, then you can contact ClearCenter. We would invoice you $10, but on net 30 terms which could then be easily cancelled.

    @All - Keep in mind Zarafa Community Edition is not supported by ClearCenter. Also, the Zarafa Small Business and Zarafa Professional Editions do have a 30 day evaluation when you're on a ClearOS Professional Edition evaluation.

    B
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    Hi Alexander - ping my your ClearSDN account username and i'll sort something out :-)

    Or if you wish to trial the pro version then Ben will gladly sort something for you - they are usually pretty good and stuff like that if you ask. Perhaps raising a ticket through the ClearSDN portal?

    P.S Why is it not possible to buy the community edition through the marketplace? are you having a problem?
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    How could I show my customer how great zarafa is!
    Normally I create an evaluation subscription for the customer and then Show him everthing on his server. But its not possible to create an evaluation subscription with zarafa and its not possible to buy the zarafa community version in the marketplace:

    This app is not available during the evaluation/free trial period.

    I would pay the 10$ to show zarafa to my customer but its not possible. What could I do?
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    I tweaked httpd as we did on CO 5.2, but this has not solved it. It’s a little red box that keeps popping up in the right-hand bottom corner when you click on a mail. Not all mails. The one that that shows the box slows when loading or freezes until you move to another. I'm testing on an inbox with 3000 mails in it.



    Your post regarding moving the attachments is here: http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,40/func,view/id,30195/limit,10/limitstart,450/
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    Hi Peter - does that error occur using webaccess? Webaccess in ClearOS 6.3 uses the default httpd service, tuning / tweaking can be applied to /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

    Where did you see the chown instruction? in ClearOS 6.3 the services run as root, and therefore the attachment storage in /var/lib/zarafa only needs root ownership (I think I made this step in the migration docs). You're right, the zarafa user doesn't not exist.
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    hm, screenshot didn't go - its a small red box at bottom of screen that says http error: 500 internal server error
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    Thanks for the input, yes its getting there – but we will need as seamless as possible switch over!
    Database is 275 GB with 160gb of attachments. Around 50 active users. The other zarafa db is for our students, which total around 300. In the end all users will use the same zarafa install, allowing better use of the shared resources.
    A couple of Questions:
    1 - I’m getting the http error message that used to happen on 5.2 (see attached screenshot)
    Does the system-httpd still need tweaking, like on 5.2? I will look, but maybe there is another issue?
    2 – When moving files from databse to filesystem, Tim mentioned that a chown -R zarafa:zarafa /var/lib/zarafa/ is needed.
    User zarafa can’t be found? Should this be chown -R mysql:mysql
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    Peter migration to COS 6.3 is prity if you have high load enviroment. COS 5.2 is an 32bit platform thats mean an memmory addresing problem on mysql. If You have big mail transfer, on my case 50-70k per day (24h), 32bit mysql is not enought.
    64bit can addres more ram for innodb and increase performance :-)
    migration from 5.2 to 6.3 is very simple. backup your database, install COS 6.3 and zarafa, export users on 5.2, import on new 6.3 (modify file if needed), import mysql dump, rehook zarafa store. I mising smtp snd domain config but it is needed of course.
    I use COS 6.x ( 6.2 & 6.3 ) in hight load enviroment end its work good.
    Only one problematic thing sometimes updates rewrites config files!:-)
    for example last mysql updates rewrite my my.cnf with default config end system-mysql dont start becuse i have moved log files outside var partition... for few monts of usage on production i think its ready for cos5.2 replace

    ps. Peter how big is Yor database? i have near 500gb + 300gb of attachments ;-)
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    Great. Set permissions and it seems to have worked, at least with my account. Will now test moving attatchments to file system, to reduce the database size, re-hooking etc, and then maybe 6.3 is worth a migration!

    Really good to have got a tested backup working. some of us have email going back 12 years or more, so its nice to feel a little safer : -)

    Thanks again. Peter
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    Hi Peter, yes - if you have recreated the Zarafa database manually you'll need to give the 'zarafa' user permissions on the new one. See deploy script here for clues on what happens during setup
    /usr/clearos/apps/zarafa/deploy/initialize-database

    grab root password from /var/clearos/system_database/root
    grab zarafa password from /var/clearos/system_database/zarafa

    cd /usr/clearos/sandbox/usr/bin/
    ./mysql -uroot -p"$ROOTPASS" -e "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON zarafa.* TO zarafa@localhost IDENTIFIED BY $ZARAFAPASS WITH GRANT OPTION;" zarafa

    Replace $ROOTPASS, and $ZARAFAPASS with your own

    Make sure the Zarafa Mysql username / password matches in /etc/zarafa/server.cfg
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    Hi Tim

    I have succesfully imported a mysql dump from 5.2 to 6.3 -took 36 hours (need to move files out of the database I think).

    I had to drop the first restore as it broke 1/2 way (MS Windows rebooted at night... thanks bill : -)

    Created a new db Zarafa, and restored the dump fully, however now Zarafa Server doesn't start due to permissions:

    Unable to connect to database: Access denied for user 'zarafa'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

    Before I start mucking about, is their a clearos way to set db permissions on the zarafa db?

    or is it just something like:

    mysql> grant all privileges on zarafa.* to zarafa@localhost ;

    Thanks, Peter
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    Tim I have to use the ISP's server because I have no other option. We do not have access to domain management. On the ISP server, accounts have 200Mb which is not enough, so I ran clearos to solve the problem of limited storage on a ISP server.
    That's why I use e-mail masquerading as required by company policy. I have two opition first use fetchmail or use forwarding fro ISP server to my domain. Adres rewriting i must use olways...

    EDIT:

    I have found a solution i need remove mail filtering from main.cf
    i remove content_filter=mailprefiler and restart postfix and all works well!
    Mail prefilter rewrite recipient addres if it matches the address rewrite rules in generic map for sender addres revrite!!! I think it is bug.
    I dont need content filtering and av scanning and i switch off it, but this is strange issue.
    When i remove content_filer directive from main.cf server load has dropped and is minimal :)
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    That would cause the problem - they do not coexist with each, sorry (unless you manually specify custom ports via the config files)
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    Hmm, I suppose this is because I installed the imap app, thinking that if the ports are different it could work together ... I will and try and uninstall it.

    This was the output:

    tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:2003 0.0.0.0:* LIST EN 2928/cyrus-master

    Thanks for the documentation, am testing a migration.
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    Roland, why are you using your ISP server? you are creating an unnecssary loop inbetween your ClearOS mail server. You need to change your domain DNS settings so that mail is passed to your ClearOS server - this is normally acheived by creating an MX record that points at your ClearOS WAN IP. Otherwise you are left to try and do complicated address rewriting on the fly, and awkward fetchmail configurations to pull mail, when it could just be delivered using the normal SMTP protocol.

    Hi Peter, is something else using port 2003? you can check with 'netstat -ntlp | grep 2003' - perhaps a stale process is still bound to the port.
    Found my notes - they are in this Google Doc here
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRYXXJlTjqA-zawGl_ODLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit
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    Tuesday, November 27 2012, 06:10 AM - #Permalink
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    Hi Tim

    On the test 6.3 server the zarafa-dagent log gives:

    Mon Nov 26 10:58:47 2012: Unable to bind to port 2003.

    On our main 5.2 system there is no zarafa-dagent log (?)

    Thanks for the migration info - I'll find your posts :- ) As you say, its just the re-hooking that takes a bit of time, but gives us a chance to let go of old users.

    Students I'm afraid will have to save their data and start with a clean sheet, but that can be a good thing too :-)
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    Here's the way I've got my fetchmail script configured and it works for me:

    poll mail.domain_A.com protocol pop3 username user.name@domain_A.com password qwerty1234 is user.name@domain_B.com here


    This is assuming the users are configured on the domain_B server and have their Zarafa account enabled in their user settings. I use Zarafa webmail rather than other email client apps behind my mail server, so I don't configure the mail server settings for any mail client apps like Outlook or Thunderbird, but if I were to do that I would just use mail.domain_B.com for the pop server configuration in these clients so it would pull what was brought in from fetchmail on the domain_B server. You would also want to use the same username in the client apps as what is given them on your domain_B server when configuring their accounts in the client apps.
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    Hi All,
    Hi Tim,
    I decide to wrote this post becouse all of my ideas did not work, not resolve my problem :(
    I have that configuration of receive mail from my primary ISP server

    primary server domain_A.com ---> fetchmail ----> slave server domain_B.com <---->users domain_A.com

    On slave server (domain_B.com) have ClearOS 6.3 with Zarafa.
    Fetch mail retrive mail from domain_A.com server and deliver it to userbox via dagent.
    I use this command for fetchmail:
    poll mail.domain_A.com protocol pop3 username "ues.name@domain_A.com" password "qwerty1234" nokeep mda "/usr/bin/zarafa-dagent user.name"

    I try use fetchmail command from COS 5.2 but it does't work for me...

    For Postfix i use generic addres rewrite for users mail @domain_B.com @domain_A.com
    and all work good, but i have mor than 100 users and retrive take a long time, too long.
    I try configure forwarding mail on domain_A.com serwer to domain_B.com, but when mail is receive by server postfix dont send it to zarafa to domain_B.com but revrite addres to domain_A.com and send it to domain_A.com server...
    And i get loop betwin domain_A.com and domain_B.com servers :(

    Can You help me solve this problem? I will be very grateful for any help I described the problem on the forum, maybe someone else will have an idea

    Best regards

    Ps. sorry for my poor english ;)
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    Monday, November 26 2012, 01:56 PM - #Permalink
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    Hi Peter, no issues I'm aware of, you can find clues in /var/log/zarafa/dagent.log - try restarting manually from the command line with 'service zarafa-dagent restart'

    EDIT: P.S the migration from the same versions of Zarafa (say from ClearOS 5.2 to ClearOS 6.3) is actually not too bad...depends on how many users you have and size of the mail database, as the time consuming bit is rehooking the mail stores to the right user. I did post some steps somewhere on the forum. If you have a seperate test 6.3 server setup its feasible to test the database migration without data loss
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    I have left looking at Zarafa on 6.3 for a while, not looking forward to a large migration; now I have noticed that Zarafa Delivery Agent won't start. (zarafa-dagent).

    Any ideas? Have there been any issues with this?

    Thanks, Peter
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    Yeah zoneedit was the culprit,I emailed support with a ticket as when I logged into my account there was no MX record in fact if I recall I never log into zoneedit took me all the time to remember my bloody password! they had me thinking I was going mad! they confirmed that it was indeed an error on their behalf however, although the clamav issues have been fixed and everything is fine I am still trying to think what I may have done to cause the permissions to change and can't think of any if I do I will be sure to post back so other users may benefit. As I previously stated I hate it when things *fix* themselves..
    Once again thanks for all of your help Tim ;)
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    Hate it when that happens! although your MX record has updated...so that mail is probably just being forward to your A DNS record (your WAN IP)
    [root@leonardo ~]# dig neonapster.co.uk MX

    ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.10.rc1.el6_3.4 <<>> neonapster.co.uk MX
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3165
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;neonapster.co.uk. IN MX

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    neonapster.co.uk. 272 IN SOA ns4.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com. 2012400570 2400 360 1209600 300

    ;; Query time: 12 msec
    ;; SERVER: 194.168.4.100#53(194.168.4.100)
    ;; WHEN: Sun Oct 7 22:36:44 2012
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 97
    No idea about the clamav issues, perhaps the permissions were trampled on at some point.
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    well, the weirdest thing, I have not touched anything at all, woke up this morning to have 4 emails in my inbox so it looks like it's all working now...... :S so no further forward as to why that happened, at least it's working however, I do hate that! I'd rather have done/fixed something to get it working so then I would know what it was......
    I am still getting the clamd errors though....

    Oct 6 10:35:40 mail amavis[30635]: (30635-03) (!)ClamAV-clamd: Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock: 111, retrying (2)
    Oct 6 10:35:46 mail amavis[30635]: (30635-03) (!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: run_av error: Too many retries to talk to /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock: Connection refused) at (eval 87) line 375.\n
    Oct 6 10:35:46 mail amavis[30635]: (30635-03) (!!)WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups

    [root@mail install]# service clamd start
    Starting Clam AntiVirus Daemon: ERROR: LOCAL: Socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock could not be removed: Permission denied
    ERROR: Can't unlink the socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
    [FAILED]

    /var/run/clamav had the permission for a user clamav;
    drwxr-xr-x. 2 clamav clamav 4096 Oct 6 15:21 clamav

    I had never changed it so no clue there, all fixed by a simple chown clam:clam /var/run/clamav
    Happy Days!
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    OK, so the MX record for your domain points at zoneedit.com servers not ClearOS
    [root@leonardo ~]# dig neonapster.co.uk MX

    ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.10.rc1.el6_3.3 <<>> neonapster.co.uk MX
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51280
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;neonapster.co.uk. IN MX

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    neonapster.co.uk. 7200 IN MX 0 mail6.zoneedit.com.
    neonapster.co.uk. 7200 IN MX 0 mail3.zoneedit.com.

    ;; Query time: 164 msec
    ;; SERVER: 194.168.4.100#53(194.168.4.100)
    ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 4 17:11:01 2012
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 90


    Tried telnetting to your SMTP server and all appears to be OK at your end.
    [root@leonardo ~]# telnet neonapster.co.uk 25
    Trying x.x.x.x...
    Connected to neonapster.co.uk.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    220 mail.neonapster.co.uk ESMTP Postfix
    ehlo test
    250-mail.neonapster.co.uk
    250-PIPELINING
    250-SIZE 51200000
    250-VRFY
    250-ETRN
    250-STARTTLS
    250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
    250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
    250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    250-8BITMIME
    250 DSN
    quit
    221 2.0.0 Bye
    Connection closed by foreign host.

    Your postfix config looks fine from your end, so you just need to ensure mail is routed to your domain...either remove the MX record, or create a new one pointing at your IP address.

    Your local client mail settings are then set to use ClearOS as the SMTP server for sending mail - does sending mail using your SMTP server work? Make sure they use SMTP authentication and provide their clearos username/password, or add their IP / subnet to the trusted network list.
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    Thanks Tim I have no idea why why it's pointing to zoneedit, i'll login and take a look, yeah im using ClearOS postfix and the records all match, here is the output of postconf -n

    [root@mail ~]# postconf -n
    alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
    alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
    bounce_queue_lifetime = 6h
    broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
    command_directory = /usr/sbin
    config_directory = /etc/postfix
    content_filter = mailprefilter
    daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix
    data_directory = /var/lib/postfix
    debug_peer_level = 2
    header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
    html_directory = no
    inet_interfaces = all
    inet_protocols = all
    local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps $virtual_alias_maps
    luser_relay =
    mail_owner = postfix
    mailbox_size_limit = 102400000
    mailbox_transport = mailpostfilter
    mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix
    manpage_directory = /usr/share/man
    message_size_limit = 51200000
    message_strip_characters = \0
    mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain
    mydomain = MYDOMAIN
    myhostname = mail.MYDOMAIN
    mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, [::1]/128
    myorigin = $mydomain
    newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix
    queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
    recipient_delimiter = +
    relayhost = [smtp.blueyonder.co.uk]:25
    sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
    setgid_group = postdrop
    smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination
    smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
    smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain
    smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
    smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/cert.pem
    smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/key.pem
    smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1
    smtpd_use_tls = yes
    transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
    unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
    virtual_alias_maps = $alias_maps, $virtual_maps, ldap:/etc/postfix/zarafa-aliases.cf, ldap:/etc/postfix/zarafa-groups.cf
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    Len, this looks like a DNS / mail routing issue

    The remote MTA (SMTP server) at 209.190.25.90 is complaining that your domain does not match the DNS record...please check your DNS MX record, as it appears to be pointing at mail3.zoneedit.com

    Which SMTP server are you using for outgoing mail on your client? ClearOS Postfix service? If sent mail from the webconfig is OK, then the local SMTP server is sending OK.

    For receiving mail, does 'mydomain.co.uk' match what you have in the SMTP server config for the ClearOS domain?

    You need the Postfix SMTP service running to receive mail.. the output of 'postconf -n' might be useful, and you can find clues in /var/log/maillog
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    Hi Tim and thanks for your response I did a fresh install as nothing was working, I am still unable to send mail. If I try to send an email to a user on the domain from my ISP account I get

    This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

    Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
    The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
    each recipient was rejected.

    Recipient: <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>
    Reason: 5.7.1 <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>: Relay access denied


    Please reply to <Postmaster@ispmail.ntl.com>
    if you feel this message to be in error.
    Reporting-MTA: dns; mtaout01-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com
    Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:41:37 +0100
    Received-From-MTA: dns; know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net (62.254.123.3)

    Final-Recipient: RFC822; <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>
    Action: failed
    Status: 5.2.0
    Remote-MTA: dns; mail3.zoneedit.com (209.190.25.90)
    Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.1 <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>: Relay access denied

    From: Leonard Button <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>
    Subject: test
    Date: 4 October 2012 13:40:33 BST
    To: Leonard Button <neonapster@mydomain.co.uk>

    I can't send email out from my client either, I can send mail from the zarafa web interface no problem....
    Furthermore even though the mail gets rejected there is nothing in the log file at all, I have stopped the SMTP server and stil get the same Relay access denied.

    What config file should I be pasting???
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    Fresh install of 6.3 setup correct DNS, IP and settings for domain, 30+ users, all is working fine for sending and receiving e-mails from Zarafa (community), some bugs I've experienced are:
    1.) When setting rules in an account, after saving and trying to access rules again, it just shows the loading icon and does not show the rules again, just hangs there.
    2.) Since I could not access the test mail rules I set, I deleted the account to reset. After deleting, I created the same user but when logging in to the account, it hangs, just shows a vwhite area where the inbox, spam etc... folders are supposed to be. I have to delete that again, create another user and set the previous account as an alias, save, delete the account then I can re-create the original account and be able to login. Some sort of account caching.
    3.) Not really a bug but trying to make this password plugin work ( http://www.zarafa.com/integrations/passwd-plugin ) as the users are not comfortable with sending me their password so I can set it. They'd rather set it themselves.
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    I don't quite understand which account you are sending from, or which SMTP server is responding to your mail (Postfix on ClearOS or your ISP SMTP server) - but relay acess denied means that the SMTP server is not willing to accept your mail because of two possibilities:-

    The recipient domain name doesn't match your system SMTP domain name, or any entries in the destination domains (SMTP server config)
    You haven't provided authentication details and your trying to send mail from outside the SMTP servers network (your ISP's for example)

    Please provide more details on the message or your config?

    Odd about the permissions errors for ClamAV, those files should be owned by the 'clam' user UID 299 GID 493 and should not normally be changed to something else. Have you modified the permissions in the /var subdirectories at all?
    [root@leonardo ~]# ls -la /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
    srw-rw-rw- 1 clam clam 0 Sep 1 00:56 /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
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    Right I have clamd start and running I commented out;
    #LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock

    #FixStaleSocket yes

    Which has got it running however, whenever I send a test email from my ISP's email address I am still getting the Reason: 5.7.1 <user@domain.co.uk>: Relay access denied
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    ok this seems to be a permission issue could anyone please tell me what permission clamd & freshclam needs?

    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail clamd[7260]: TCP: Setting connection queue length to 30
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail clamd[7260]: LOCAL: Socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock could not be bound: Permission denied
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail clamd[7260]: Can't unlink the socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail freshclam[7268]: Can't save PID to file /var/run/clamav/freshclam.pid: Permission denied
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail freshclam[7268]: freshclam daemon 0.97.5 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: x86_64, CPU: x86_64)
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail freshclam[7268]: Can't create temporary directory /var/lib/clamav/clamav-5eed78e8430accd6be71bb9db4168247
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail freshclam[7268]: Hint: The database directory must be writable for UID 493 or GID 493
    Oct 3 09:32:54 mail freshclam[7268]: --------------------------------------
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    I have sent a test email from my ISP email address and it gets returned

    This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

    Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
    The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
    each recipient was rejected.

    Recipient: <user@domain.co.uk>
    Reason: 5.7.1 <user@domain.co.uk>: Relay access denied

    Recipient: <auser@domain.co.uk>
    Reason: 5.7.1 <auser@domain.co.uk>: Relay access
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    Hi all, I have had zarafa installed and working fine, but for the past 3 days I have had no mail what so ever,
    I have sent a test email and this is the output;

    Oct 3 08:19:56 mail postfix/pipe[17344]: 4B97A240D7C: to=<user@domain.com>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=0.33, delays=0.15/0.02/0/0.15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailprefilter service)
    Oct 3 08:19:56 mail postfix/pipe[17344]: 4B97A240D7C: to=<user2@domain.comk>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=0.33, delays=0.15/0.02/0/0.15, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailprefilter service)

    But no mail is being received....

    has anyone got any ideas as to what is going on here??? I really don't want to reinstall as I have had some important email's that have been sent!!!

    I have found this if it is related or not I have no idea

    Sep 30 22:50:55 mail amavis[9486]: (09486-09) (!)ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: run_av error: Too many retries to talk to /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock: No such file or directory) at (eval 87) line 375.\n
    Sep 30 22:50:55 mail amavis[9486]: (09486-09) (!!)WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups
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    They're showing up on two of my test boxes....you would have to logout/login to webconfig...that data gets cached.

    Ben
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    They are still not visible
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    My auto-sync script stomped on the repo location....Zarafa Community should be visible now.

    Can't see how installing Zarafa could break account sync though.

    B.
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    Ben,

    I proceeded exactly the same way you said, zarafa is not available in the marketplace. rather IMAP and POP server is also not available in the marketplace.


    I am unable to attach the image, therefore I am posting the link of the image uploaded on a picture sharing website
    http://s7.postimage.org/oh1ll0syj/zarafa_not_found.jpg

    However I was able to install zarafa through shell by running the follwing command:
    yum install app-zarafa-community

    Though it installed zarafa, it broke the account manager. 'Account Manager Status' says 'Account system is offline'.

    P.S. A comparison of the marketplace for 'Server' apps in the old and new system:
    http://s13.postimage.org/fm1q13z93/comparison_of_marketplace.jpg http://www.clearfoundation.com/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/marketplace_comparison.jpg
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    Peevs,

    If you installed as "New System", then your Zarafa Community app is no longer associated with your system. You'll need to associate your purchased app with your new system by logging into the ClearCenter Portal and navigating to "Systems --> System Summary".

    First, find your old system that has the license, and delete it ("Systems --> Delete System").

    Once you do that, you will 'free up' your Zarafa Community license.

    Now assign it to your new system by navigating to "Systems --> System Subscriptions". On the "Available Subscriptions" tab, select your Zarafa Community license and click on 'Assign'.

    Now, you can either install via Marketplace (purchase price will indicate you have already got a license) or simply go to a shell and type:
     yum install app-zarafa-community


    Ben
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    yum install zarafa

    not remember if only that o better

    yum search zarafa

    y look what is need install


    now is the 7 version
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    Hi Tim,

    I had earlier installed 6.3.0 on a test system and installed the Zarafa app after purchase through marketplace. Today I installed 6.3.0 on a server for use in production environment (Reinstall option in system registration). Thereafter when I tried to install Zarafa app, I could not find the app in Marketplace. Has it been removed from the marketplace?

    Thanks
    -Peevs
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    Dave Loper wrote:
    Some answers...

    1.- Whats the course or point of the Clear OS community? Whats its direccion ?
    -The course and point of ClearOS community is to further ClearOS and the open source projects that make ClearOS. Many, many people rely on ClearOS and even though they may NOT participate in the forums, I can assure you that solutions presented here on this forum are not only valuable to the ClearOS community but also other people that use other flavors linux and open source.

    2.- One of the community's job is to approve or not its own actions
    -There are two factors which push ClearOS development and the approval of any item. The main factor to the approval of any item is that the work can actually get done. We have a lot of volunteers but the truth is that 95% of what makes ClearOS a product and a project comes from ClearCenter. I would love it if we had 3 dozen Tim Burgesses in the community to drive the various aspects but we don't..not yet anyways.

    Here is a little insider information about ClearCenter. The company has two main goals; Revenue, and Awareness. Because ClearCenter must try to maintain profitability, they will set their goals on the items which make money. ClearCenter does NOT have deep pockets. They have not taken any external funding which means that they are only beholden to the officers of the company. That being said, if ClearCenter ever closed their doors, ClearOS would suffer deeply.

    So why does ClearFoundation take its marching orders from ClearCenter? Well, we don't, not really. But without their contributions we'd have very little improvement. So when ClearCenter says, here's an app, what do you think? We almost always says, yep, we'll put that in just as you made it.

    3.- Its quite clear the discontent that including zarafa and not normal imap
    -The decision was made to release 6.2 without the mail stack. This was done because SOOOOO much went into 6.x (64 bit, new build system, new webconfig...and much more). 6 was a massive undertaking and instead of delaying another 4 months for the mail stack, we decided to release early. As for the normal IMAP, who do you suggest would include it or write it? Tim did a good job of putting together Zarafa. It really is a better business solution than horde. There was never a decision to exclude plain old IMAP. The problem is that who is going to develop it? No one in the community stepped up to produce it so Peter and I begged and begged ClearCenter to spend some of their money to develop it and include it. They relented and voila, there it is...but I can tell you that adding IMAP does NOTHING to help their bottom line. This is why the community needs to understand that ClearCenter is not some mega-bucks company that is trying to fleece everyone. Rather, it is about 7-8 people who love open source and have left or refused to take other lucrative careers in order to make awesome software that only occasionally costs money.

    4.- Its obvious that TIM is an asset to the community
    -Tim is an asset to the community. We are very happy that he shares so much of his time with us. There are many, many members who are an asset to the community. In fact, I'm aware of at least a half a dozen people involved with this project who NEVER even participate in the forums.

    5.-There are ways of helping out the cause using donations even tho it goes against the projects philosophy
    -What goes against the project's philosophy? I don't understand.


    6.-The way you keep mentioning the Apple Store confuses the point of this project, the App store’s original objective was to get rid of music firms, and it partially did.
    And now Apple Store its got thousands of developers because they included it on the iphone and its a very popular product
    Thats why i ask about the course of all this, there are more than 300k apple devs and joomla keeps getting more, with this actions ClearOs will loose a big part of its developing community.
    -I can count the number of people that submitted code to ClearOS 5.x on one hand. It takes two hands to count those that submit for 6.x right now. That number is growing. We are NOT Apple but then again we aren't beholden to shareholders either. The idea for the Marketplace is that it is an intuitive way to get apps for those who don't do the command line thing. People that want to contribute open source apps should contact me, Tim, or Peter for help getting it submitted to the community repo. People that want to make money with their app need to talk to Devin Johnson or Mike Proper from ClearCenter.

    7.- Why wont ClearOS get a free mail server?
    We should learn from Elastix, with more than a million installations all over the world.
    There are always options in zentyal’s IND, sisnce it has both imap pop 3&4 and zarafa
    Its on ubunut and it has a great firewall
    -As I explained above, we cashed in some favors with ClearCenter and got them to make a free app. The question I have for the community is why didn't the community step up and make the imap server? There are lists and lists of wishes on the wishlist but honestly, the only ones that get made reality are those where someone has taken up the torch and run with it.

    -I'm only starting to learn how to use the new framework as my skill set is NOT programming but rather integration. To date, I've contributed a good portions of the following elements as early as 4.x; OpenVPN, PDC/BDC functionality, wireless, RADIUS, and more. Like I said, I'm not a programmer. All of these apps started out EXACTLY like Tim's Zarafa module; they started out as a howto which people used, TESTED, and gave feedback.


    and in the era of globalization that has a community only in English,
    I do not think the best option
    -This is not true. If you want to have a ClearFoundation community in another language, start one...
    Here is a Malaysian one... https://www.facebook.com/groups/cos.malaysia/
    Here is an Indonesian one on Facebook...https://www.facebook.com/groups/cos.indo/

    -Start one in your language. To participate just requires that you participate. You are participating here and it is appreciated. We thank you.

    must sum to ClearOS sysadmin to be large
    few people in the community had clarconnect?
    -Everyone is welcome to join in and help. One of the biggest contributors to ClearOS right now spends one day a week helping us out and he only got involved beginning last year. He doesn't like to be in the limelight so I won't embarrass him but you know who you are.
    ClearOS everybody in?

    I see always the same no more than 20 active
    -Like I said, there are many active members who never even post.


    Impressive post this should be made sticky or posted in the blog section.
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    Dave,

    The link at the bottom of you post seems to be invalid. I think this may be what you are referring to:

    http://www.clearfoundation.com/docs/developer/architecture/centralized_user_data/start

    Is the LVM resize guide available?
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    I figured out, I was installing
    zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386.rpm instead of
    zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i686.rpm

    Thanks for helping me Tim. 'uname -a' gave me the clue. Cheers!
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    OK, but are you using the right one? what's the output of 'uname -a'
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    I downloaded the zarafa-licensed from http://download.clearfoundation.com/community/timb80/zarafa/
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    Are you installing the right RPM for your arch? e.g. if you are using the 64bit version, you'll need the x86_64 version of zarafa-licensed.

    Where did you download it from?

    (Please don't use --nodeps unless you really have too, the dependancy warnings are there for a reason)
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    Hi,

    I have successfully installed the app-zarafa from marketplace (6.3.0 community edition). I also wanted to install zarafa-licensed.

    On the command :
    Yum install sysstat
    rpm -Uvh zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386.rpm

    I get the following error:
    libcrypto.so.6 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386
    libcurl.so.3 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386
    libicudata.so.36 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386
    libicui18n.so.36 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386
    libicuuc.so.36 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386
    libssl.so.6 is needed by zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386

    Thereafter on the command:
    rpm -Uvh –nodeps zarafa-licensed-7.0.8-35178.i386.rpm

    zarafa-licensed in installed, but on service zarafa-licensed start I get the following error:
    /usr/bin/zarafa-licensed: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.36: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

    where am I wrong
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    Some answers...

    1.- Whats the course or point of the Clear OS community? Whats its direccion ?
    -The course and point of ClearOS community is to further ClearOS and the open source projects that make ClearOS. Many, many people rely on ClearOS and even though they may NOT participate in the forums, I can assure you that solutions presented here on this forum are not only valuable to the ClearOS community but also other people that use other flavors linux and open source.

    2.- One of the community's job is to approve or not its own actions
    -There are two factors which push ClearOS development and the approval of any item. The main factor to the approval of any item is that the work can actually get done. We have a lot of volunteers but the truth is that 95% of what makes ClearOS a product and a project comes from ClearCenter. I would love it if we had 3 dozen Tim Burgesses in the community to drive the various aspects but we don't..not yet anyways.

    Here is a little insider information about ClearCenter. The company has two main goals; Revenue, and Awareness. Because ClearCenter must try to maintain profitability, they will set their goals on the items which make money. ClearCenter does NOT have deep pockets. They have not taken any external funding which means that they are only beholden to the officers of the company. That being said, if ClearCenter ever closed their doors, ClearOS would suffer deeply.

    So why does ClearFoundation take its marching orders from ClearCenter? Well, we don't, not really. But without their contributions we'd have very little improvement. So when ClearCenter says, here's an app, what do you think? We almost always says, yep, we'll put that in just as you made it.

    3.- Its quite clear the discontent that including zarafa and not normal imap
    -The decision was made to release 6.2 without the mail stack. This was done because SOOOOO much went into 6.x (64 bit, new build system, new webconfig...and much more). 6 was a massive undertaking and instead of delaying another 4 months for the mail stack, we decided to release early. As for the normal IMAP, who do you suggest would include it or write it? Tim did a good job of putting together Zarafa. It really is a better business solution than horde. There was never a decision to exclude plain old IMAP. The problem is that who is going to develop it? No one in the community stepped up to produce it so Peter and I begged and begged ClearCenter to spend some of their money to develop it and include it. They relented and voila, there it is...but I can tell you that adding IMAP does NOTHING to help their bottom line. This is why the community needs to understand that ClearCenter is not some mega-bucks company that is trying to fleece everyone. Rather, it is about 7-8 people who love open source and have left or refused to take other lucrative careers in order to make awesome software that only occasionally costs money.

    4.- Its obvious that TIM is an asset to the community
    -Tim is an asset to the community. We are very happy that he shares so much of his time with us. There are many, many members who are an asset to the community. In fact, I'm aware of at least a half a dozen people involved with this project who NEVER even participate in the forums.

    5.-There are ways of helping out the cause using donations even tho it goes against the projects philosophy
    -What goes against the project's philosophy? I don't understand.


    6.-The way you keep mentioning the Apple Store confuses the point of this project, the App store’s original objective was to get rid of music firms, and it partially did.
    And now Apple Store its got thousands of developers because they included it on the iphone and its a very popular product
    Thats why i ask about the course of all this, there are more than 300k apple devs and joomla keeps getting more, with this actions ClearOs will loose a big part of its developing community.
    -I can count the number of people that submitted code to ClearOS 5.x on one hand. It takes two hands to count those that submit for 6.x right now. That number is growing. We are NOT Apple but then again we aren't beholden to shareholders either. The idea for the Marketplace is that it is an intuitive way to get apps for those who don't do the command line thing. People that want to contribute open source apps should contact me, Tim, or Peter for help getting it submitted to the community repo. People that want to make money with their app need to talk to Devin Johnson or Mike Proper from ClearCenter.

    7.- Why wont ClearOS get a free mail server?
    We should learn from Elastix, with more than a million installations all over the world.
    There are always options in zentyal’s IND, sisnce it has both imap pop 3&4 and zarafa
    Its on ubunut and it has a great firewall
    -As I explained above, we cashed in some favors with ClearCenter and got them to make a free app. The question I have for the community is why didn't the community step up and make the imap server? There are lists and lists of wishes on the wishlist but honestly, the only ones that get made reality are those where someone has taken up the torch and run with it.

    -I'm only starting to learn how to use the new framework as my skill set is NOT programming but rather integration. To date, I've contributed a good portions of the following elements as early as 4.x; OpenVPN, PDC/BDC functionality, wireless, RADIUS, and more. Like I said, I'm not a programmer. All of these apps started out EXACTLY like Tim's Zarafa module; they started out as a howto which people used, TESTED, and gave feedback.


    and in the era of globalization that has a community only in English,
    I do not think the best option
    -This is not true. If you want to have a ClearFoundation community in another language, start one...
    Here is a Malaysian one... https://www.facebook.com/groups/cos.malaysia/
    Here is an Indonesian one on Facebook...https://www.facebook.com/groups/cos.indo/

    -Start one in your language. To participate just requires that you participate. You are participating here and it is appreciated. We thank you.

    must sum to ClearOS sysadmin to be large
    few people in the community had clarconnect?
    -Everyone is welcome to join in and help. One of the biggest contributors to ClearOS right now spends one day a week helping us out and he only got involved beginning last year. He doesn't like to be in the limelight so I won't embarrass him but you know who you are.
    ClearOS everybody in?

    I see always the same no more than 20 active
    -Like I said, there are many active members who never even post.
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    I'll try and find out why this is happening. There is a workaround for this but it requires some command line work. I know that Peter and I have been working to make a method whereby the OS is largely located on '/' and all other data devices are located in '/store'. For example, if you have additional partitions, NAS devices, USB attached storage, iSCSI SAN or what have you, then you simply mount all of this data in /store. (data0, usb0, iscsi0, iscsi1, et al.)

    From here you bind mount the data to the new drive. This is a workaround but I will have a guide tomorrow written up to resize your LVM on ClearOS. The beauty of LVM is that you can shrink and grow the partitions. Until then (and even if you do the LVM thing) you might want to consider making the data structure you need in the /home partition and then simply bindmounting it over to /var/flexshare/shares.

    www.clearfoundation.com/docs/developer/a...ized_user_data/start
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    As a result of this discussion ClearOS does now have a free IMAP server (Cyrus) for those that don't want or need Zarafa... app-imap is available for beta testing

    The Marketplace should be about choice :) more developers = more apps = more choice

    Why will ClearOS lose out on developers when they now have the possibility of marketing and providing apps to the masses? I think you have this round the wrong way

    Yes translation needs improving, they have a translation server all set to go...and I believe its not long before this is working properly and implemented in the webconfig. As with all things...it takes time, and usually peopls own time. Again...more developers = less time to wait!

    Hope that helps to clarify?
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    :silly:
    A few things i’d like to point out
    1.- Whats the course or point of the Clear OS community? Whats its direccion ?
    2.- One of the community's job is to approve or not its own actions
    3.- Its quite clear the discontent that including zarafa and not normal imap
    4.- Its obvious that TIM is an asset to the community
    5.-There are ways of helping out the cause using donations even tho it goes against the projects philosophy
    6.-The way you keep mentioning the Apple Store confuses the point of this project, the App store’s original objective was to get rid of music firms, and it partially did.
    And now Apple Store its got thousands of developers because they included it on the iphone and its a very popular product
    Thats why i ask about the course of all this, there are more than 300k apple devs and joomla keeps getting more, with this actions ClearOs will loose a big part of its developing community.

    7.- Why wont ClearOS get a free mail server?
    We should learn from Elastix, with more than a million installations all over the world.
    There are always options in zentyal’s IND, sisnce it has both imap pop 3&4 and zarafa
    Its on ubunut and it has a great firewall

    and in the era of globalization that has a community only in English,
    I do not think the best option

    must sum to ClearOS sysadmin to be large
    few people in the community had clarconnect?
    ClearOS everybody in?

    I see always the same no more than 20 active

    thanks
    MHG
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    Hi Stephen, I suggest you start another thread for this issue. I've raised it as a bug as noted by some others too on default installs with large drives
    http://tracker.clearfoundation.com/view.php?id=704
    It would appear you need to shrink the lv_home volume, and grow the lv_root volume...presently your volume group vg_system is full. I'm not 100% on the way forward from here other than the steps in the previous link you posted.
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    Hi Stephen
    I didn't really follow the problem,… time :-), but am reading this particular with a glass of wine and wondering if what you need is a larger disk size for the flexshare dir? or even the var dir?
    If that is the case, do you have room to add hard disks? You could add a nice large hard disk as /var/flexshare, or even as /var (that might be a little more complicated as system logs are also there). If this is a possible, I could give you a suggestion of my way of doing it. If this is not the case, then forget my comments :- ) we have done this for /home / var/flexshare and /var /lib/mysql when needed.
    Regards
    Peter
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    Some more info from fdisk


    [root@system ~]# fdisk -l

    Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000465fb

    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sda1 * 1 64 512000 83 Linux
    Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
    /dev/sda2 64 243032 1951634432 8e Linux LVM

    Disk /dev/sdb: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000465fb

    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sdb1 * 1 64 512000 83 Linux
    Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
    /dev/sdb2 64 243032 1951634432 8e Linux LVM

    Disk /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_root: 53.7 GB, 53687091200 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6527 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00000000


    Disk /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_swap: 10.5 GB, 10536091648 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1280 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00000000


    Disk /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_home: 1934.2 GB, 1934249426944 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 235159 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00000000
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    Hi Tim and other forum users :-),

    I don't know if you got my last post regarding the disk space issue, i know I've kind of strayed from the original post so if i need to re post this into another thread i will do.

    My results from pvdisplay are as follows

    pvdisplay shows the following

    --- Physical volume ---
    PV Name /dev/sdb2
    VG Name vg_system
    PV Size 1.82 TiB / not usable 0
    Allocatable yes (but full)
    PE Size 4.00 MiB
    Total PE 476473
    Free PE 0
    Allocated PE 476473
    PV UUID fwhgsk-ZsRG-8F70-uYvH-A9Cq-w4Q2-k6Pz5X

    Does this look ok for me to go ahead and attempt to re size the partition as mentioned in my previous post ?

    Obviously anything that i do will be on my own head, i am going to make an exact clone of the drive as it is now to ensure that i have a perfect copy of the working system as it is now, so that should anything go wrong i can just pop the cloned drive in and all will be back to normal, but as it stands at the moment i desperately need to get more space on the flex-shares/root directory, any advice would be greatly appreciated,


    Best wishes

    Stephen
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    Cheers tim :-),

    pvdisplay shows the following

    --- Physical volume ---
    PV Name /dev/sdb2
    VG Name vg_system
    PV Size 1.82 TiB / not usable 0
    Allocatable yes (but full)
    PE Size 4.00 MiB
    Total PE 476473
    Free PE 0
    Allocated PE 476473
    PV UUID fwhgsk-ZsRG-8F70-uYvH-A9Cq-w4Q2-k6Pz5X


    Im not totally confident when it comes to messing with the hard drive sizes within linux, but im happy to give it a go as im sure other people will encounter similar problems, so this thread might help them out a bit as well as myself :-), does the output of pvdisplay look ok for me to go ahead and resize the partitions ?

    Thanks again for taking the time to reply

    Stephen
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    Glad you have Zarafa working properly! :)

    To be honest i'm very suprised at the default LVM sizes, and i've not noticed that before. As pointed out most of the data for ClearOS is stored in the /var/flexshare/shares folder...

    That link looks OK..you should be able to reapportion the sizes in the LVM group online (i.e. reduce the size of lv_home and increase lb_root, what's the output of pvdisplay?
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    Thanks jared,

    Your completely right, i just did a df -h via command line and got the following results

    [root@system ~]# df -h
    Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_root
    50G 40G 7.5G 84% /
    tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev/shm
    /dev/sdb1 485M 52M 409M 12% /boot
    /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_home
    1.8T 196M 1.7T 1% /home

    __________________________________________________________

    [root@system ~]# mount
    /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_root on / type ext4 (rw)
    proc on /proc type proc (rw)
    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
    devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
    tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
    /dev/sdb1 on /boot type ext4 (rw)
    /dev/mapper/vg_system-lv_home on /home type ext4 (rw)
    none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)


    It has allocated very little space to the root partition and the rest of the 1.8tb of space to home directories, which is a bit annoying to be honest as i hardly ever use the home directories we just put everything in the flexshares lol

    Is there a way to increase the root partition without having to start from scratch again ?

    i found the below topic which advises that 10gb or whatever specified can be added to the root but seeing as the server is now working perfectly and is a live system, (bar this hard drive size issue) i am cautious to start changing things but its going to have to be done as the drive will probably fill up very quickly so again any suggestions would be welcome

    http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28122/can-i-resize-the-root-partition-without-uninstalling-and-reinstalling-linux-or


    Best wishes

    Stephen
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    Wednesday, August 08 2012, 01:01 PM - #Permalink
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    Check where you are copying the data to and what partition this is on. By default, most of your hard drive space will be allocated to a separate 'home folder' partition and the root file system partition is usually much smaller (in my case it's about 10% the size of my drive).

    I found this out the hard way yesterday and only diagnosed with df, du and fdisk.
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    Hi Tim,

    I would firstly like to say thanks to all who have replied to my plea for help lol

    I have solved the problem with my install, the problem appeared to be related to the database, i was working on the system last night copying large amounts of data back to the flexshares and the database just folded over, everything failed so i started from scratch with a fresh clean install, zaraffa and everything else is now working perfectly all emails are being sent and received and the server is performing as normal.

    It was slightly foolish of me to push zarafa out in a live environment without testing first but to be honest there wasn't really any other option as the existing clearos 5.2 install that had been running non stop for over 2 years finally gave up on us, so it just made sense to bite the bullet and upgrade

    The system is now up and running without any problems apart from a rather strange issue with a flexshare, when i try to copy a large ammount of data 80gb to one of my flexshares i get an error stating that the disk is full and the server locks up, a reboot solves the problem bringing everything back online but there is terrabytes of space left on the drive it most definitely is not even near full, i have tried copying the data in smaller chunks but i get similar problems, i don't suppose anyone has any ideas regarding this ?

    And also is there any free backup solution planned for the marketplace at all ?

    Best wishes

    Stephen
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    Tuesday, August 07 2012, 06:47 PM - #Permalink
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    I'm surprised you rolled it straight info production without testing?

    The following should fix the smtp bug, if you still have issues then we need to know more about your mail configuration and the relevant entries from /var/log/maillog

    yum --enablerepo=clearos-updates-testing upgrade app-smtp
    Save your mail domain again even if unchanged in server> mall settings
    monitor incoming mail in the log files...
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    I have tried everything that has been suggested to no avail, if anyone has any other ideas that would be great as ive now been working on this for 8 hours straight, no one in the company has had any emails at all since yesterday and things are getting a little desperate now

    Shell access is available if anyone wants to check out my settings

    Best wishes

    Stephen
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    Careful though, I thought I noticed during the initial configuration wizard with ClearOS6.3 that once you uninstall an app, it won't show up in the marketplace again


    I had a feeling this policy (not mine!) was going to cause issues...the default filter settings for Marketplace now set the "filter by install status" to "Not installed". That means, once you install an app, it will not be displayed in Marketplace unless you set this to "Filter by install status" which removes all filters...or "Installed".

    B. http://www.clearfoundation.com/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/filter.png
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    I installed zaraffa using the marketplace and the install seemed to go fine, but there is definately somthing amiss with it

    Im not too sure how i would go about removing zarafa using shell access as zaraffa no longer shows up in the marketplace since i have installed it
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    Hi Tim,

    Thanks for your quick reply
    I have tried the steps listed above but when i try yum upgrade app-smtp i just get "No packages for marked for update"

    i ran postmap /etc/postfix/searchdomains and still no joy

    Any other suggestions would be massivly appreciated

    Ste
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    Can you uninstall it via shell (assuming that's the way you installed it) and then reinstall it via the market place? It will show up that it's already paid for based on your Clear Center account. Careful though, I thought I noticed during the initial configuration wizard with ClearOS6.3 that once you uninstall an app, it won't show up in the marketplace again. That doesn't mean you couldn't do a yum install of Zarafa Community from your shell prompt, since it's in the repos.
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    Stephen, there was a bug in app-smtp, see this thread
    http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,39/func,view/id,44448/

    Andi / Stuart, I believe if you ask Ben nicely he can sort out trial licenses for those that want it :)
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    Also notice this error in the logs WARNING: zarafa-licensed not running, commercial features will not be available until it's sta

    And also if i go into System - Mail settings on the right hand side under additional info the following is displayed in red Record not found (mail_settings)
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    Hi all,

    I have installed a fresh copy of 6.3 64Bit, which seems to be working fine, i have today purchased zaraffa and installed it via the marketplace but i cannot get it to work at all, mail is reaching the server as i can see it in the maillog but it is not getting delivered to the users

    Maillog
    Aug 7 14:48:20 system amavis[17506]: Perl version 5.010001
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Net::Server: Group Not Defined. Defaulting to EGID '294 294'
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Net::Server: User Not Defined. Defaulting to EUID '294'
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Amavis::Conf 2.209
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Archive::Zip 1.30
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module BerkeleyDB 0.43
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Compress::Zlib 2.02
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Convert::TNEF 0.17
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Convert::UUlib 1.34
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA 0.25
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module DB_File 1.82
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Digest::MD5 2.39
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Digest::SHA 5.47
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module IO::Socket::INET6 2.56
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module MIME::Entity 5.427
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module MIME::Parser 5.427
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module MIME::Tools 5.427
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Mail::DKIM::Verifier 0.37
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Mail::Header 2.04
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Mail::Internet 2.04
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Mail::SpamAssassin 3.003001
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Net::DNS 0.65
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Net::Server 0.97
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module NetAddr::IP 4.027
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Socket6 0.23
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Time::HiRes 1.9721
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module URI 1.40
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Module Unix::Syslog 1.1
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Amavis::DB code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Amavis::Cache code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: SQL base code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: SQL::Log code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: SQL::Quarantine NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Lookup::SQL code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Lookup::LDAP code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: AM.PDP-in proto code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: SMTP-in proto code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Courier proto code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: SMTP-out proto code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Pipe-out proto code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: BSMTP-out proto code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Local-out proto code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: OS_Fingerprint code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: ANTI-VIRUS code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: ANTI-SPAM code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: ANTI-SPAM-EXT code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: ANTI-SPAM-C code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: ANTI-SPAM-SA code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Unpackers code loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: DKIM code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Tools code NOT loaded
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found $file at /usr/bin/file
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No $altermime, not using it
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .mail
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .asc
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .uue
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .hqx
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .ync
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .F tried: unfreeze, freeze -d, melt, fcat
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .Z at /usr/bin/uncompress
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .gz at /usr/bin/gzip -d
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .bz2 at /usr/bin/bzip2 -d
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .lzo tried: lzop -d
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .rpm at /usr/bin/rpm2cpio
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .cpio at /usr/bin/pax
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .tar at /usr/bin/pax
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .deb at /usr/bin/ar
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Internal decoder for .zip
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .rar tried: rar, unrar
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .arj tried: arj, unarj
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .arc tried: nomarch, arc
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .zoo tried: zoo
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .lha tried: lha
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .cab at /usr/bin/cabextract
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found decoder for .tnef at /usr/bin/tnef
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: No decoder for .exe tried: rar, unrar; lha; arj, unarj
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Using primary internal av scanner code for ClamAV-clamd
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Found secondary av scanner ClamAV-clamscan at /usr/bin/clamscan
    Aug 7 14:48:21 system amavis[17507]: Creating db in /var/lib/amavis/db/; BerkeleyDB 0.43, libdb 4.7
    Aug 7 14:50:30 system postfix/smtpd[17661]: connect from unknown[192.168.1.71]
    Aug 7 14:50:30 system postfix/smtpd[17661]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[192.168.1.71]: 554 5.7.1 <ross.jefferson@live.com>: Relay access denied; from=<vm@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk> to=<ross.jefferson@live.com> proto=SMTP helo=<MERIDIANBR>
    Aug 7 14:50:30 system postfix/smtpd[17661]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.1.71]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: connect from unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: 4E8E42C10DB: client=unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: 4E8E42C10DB: message-id=<20120807134706DI.DCSML-S006450000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 4E8E42C10DB: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1844164, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: BB15A2C111D: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: BB15A2C111D: message-id=<20120807134706DI.DCSML-S006450000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: BB15A2C111D: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1844373, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/pipe[17679]: 4E8E42C10DB: to=<partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, orig_to=<bp@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=0.58, delays=0.39/0/0/0.18, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailprefilter service)
    Aug 7 14:52:18 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 4E8E42C10DB: removed
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/smtpd[17684]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/smtpd[17684]: 670E62C1122: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: 670E62C1122: message-id=<20120807134706DI.DCSML-S006450000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 670E62C1122: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1845044, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system amavis[17513]: (17513-01) Passed CLEAN, LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1] <ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk> -> <partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, Message-ID: <20120807134706DI.DCSML-S006450000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, mail_id: lafjXbrMKHLb, Hits: -1, size: 1844373, queued_as: 670E62C1122, 2677 ms
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/smtp[17682]: BB15A2C111D: to=<partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=2.8, delays=0.13/0/0/2.7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10026): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 670E62C1122)
    Aug 7 14:52:21 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: BB15A2C111D: removed
    Aug 7 14:52:44 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: connect from unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:44 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: D50D32C111D: client=unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:44 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: D50D32C111D: message-id=<20120807134733NW.DCSML-S006460000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: D50D32C111D: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1789630, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/smtpd[17676]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.1.106]
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: 4863E2C1120: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: 4863E2C1120: message-id=<20120807134733NW.DCSML-S006460000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 4863E2C1120: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1789839, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/smtpd[17681]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/pipe[17679]: D50D32C111D: to=<partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, orig_to=<bp@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=0.56, delays=0.38/0/0/0.18, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailprefilter service)
    Aug 7 14:52:45 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: D50D32C111D: removed
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/smtpd[17693]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/smtpd[17693]: 25C262C0C1C: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/cleanup[17678]: 25C262C0C1C: message-id=<20120807134733NW.DCSML-S006460000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 25C262C0C1C: from=<ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, size=1790510, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system amavis[17510]: (17510-02) Passed CLEAN, LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1] <ds@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk> -> <partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, Message-ID: <20120807134733NW.DCSML-S006460000.0000748D3DCD@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, mail_id: QjB+ZXrsqB-v, Hits: -1, size: 1789839, queued_as: 25C262C0C1C, 848 ms
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/smtp[17682]: 4863E2C1120: to=<partlettb@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.98, delays=0.13/0/0/0.85, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10026): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 25C262C0C1C)
    Aug 7 14:52:46 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 4863E2C1120: removed
    Aug 7 14:55:00 system postfix/smtpd[17813]: connect from server213-171-218-93.livedns.org.uk[213.171.218.93]
    Aug 7 14:55:00 system postfix/smtpd[17813]: E54D52C111C: client=server213-171-218-93.livedns.org.uk[213.171.218.93]
    Aug 7 14:55:00 system postfix/cleanup[17814]: E54D52C111C: message-id=<CC0B3601B4854EA9950FDE8ED72DFC0D@VHOSTS3.LOCAL>
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: E54D52C111C: from=<Info@BusinessSalesOnline.com>, size=2072, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/smtpd[17813]: disconnect from server213-171-218-93.livedns.org.uk[213.171.218.93]
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/smtpd[17684]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/smtpd[17817]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/smtpd[17817]: 19A182C1127: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/cleanup[17814]: 19A182C1127: message-id=<CC0B3601B4854EA9950FDE8ED72DFC0D@VHOSTS3.LOCAL>
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 19A182C1127: from=<info@businesssalesonline.com>, size=2281, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/smtpd[17817]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/pipe[17815]: E54D52C111C: to=<faulkneri@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, orig_to=<info@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=0.29, delays=0.15/0/0/0.13, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailprefilter service)
    Aug 7 14:55:01 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: E54D52C111C: removed
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/smtpd[17693]: CFC692C1120: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/cleanup[17814]: CFC692C1120: message-id=<CC0B3601B4854EA9950FDE8ED72DFC0D@VHOSTS3.LOCAL>
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/smtpd[17693]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: CFC692C1120: from=<info@businesssalesonline.com>, size=3065, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system amavis[17510]: (17510-03) Passed CLEAN, LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [213.171.218.93] <info@businesssalesonline.com> -> <faulkneri@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, Message-ID: <CC0B3601B4854EA9950FDE8ED72DFC0D@VHOSTS3.LOCAL>, mail_id: 1b9yvU1Tn92y, Hits: 3.196, size: 2280, queued_as: CFC692C1120, 1718 ms
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/smtp[17818]: 19A182C1127: to=<faulkneri@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=1.8, delays=0.08/0/0/1.7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10026): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as CFC692C1120)
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: 19A182C1127: removed
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/pipe[17881]: CFC692C1120: to=<faulkneri@meridianbusinesssales.co.uk>, relay=mailpostfilter, delay=0.12, delays=0.05/0.01/0/0.06, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via mailpostfilter service)
    Aug 7 14:55:02 system postfix/qmgr[17281]: CFC692C1120: removed
    Aug 7 14:58:21 system postfix/anvil[17663]: statistics: max connection rate 2/60s for (smtp:192.168.1.106) at Aug 7 14:52:44
    Aug 7 14:58:21 system postfix/anvil[17663]: statistics: max connection count 1 for (smtp:192.168.1.71) at Aug 7 14:50:30
    Aug 7 14:58:21 system postfix/anvil[17663]: statistics: max cache size 1 at Aug 7 14:50:30

    SMTP SERVER

    Domain meridianbusinesssales.co.uk
    Hostname mail.meridianbusinesssales.co.uk
    Relay Host
    Maximum Message Size 100 MB

    MAIL SETTINGS
    Mail Domain mail.meridianbusinesssales.co.uk

    I desperately need some help with this, all zaraffa services are running but the mail will not be delivered any thoughts will be much appreciated


    Thanks

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    I think that is a good question. As to an answer I am unsure. Possibly they should change the licensing to something like the Joomla extension directory.
    Where it is offered free for non-commercial use.
    Its a real problem isn't it? How do you reward contribution. How do you gain revenue for work without releasing product to some who might just leach.
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    Great, finally Zarafa integrated with ClearOS 6.3. For $10, I think it's fair to the Tim's hard work.
    Just a question, What if there are members who want to try Zarafa community first before buying?

    I also agree with the opinion that the mail server is a basic feature of ClearOS. There are at least a mailserver module or a webmail (such as the horde in ClearOS 5.2) for the use of the mail server without any additional applications, such as features in Zarafa. (I think this started in this topic) . So can a lot of options for ClearOS users. :)
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    Just so we don't get too sidetracked on this thread, I posted how I got fetchmail to work here
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    i created my .fetchmailrc file in root dir and it worked.
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    I was trying to follow your advise Tim, but after installing fetchmail I can't find it anywhere. There is no directory or config file for it under /etc. Anyone else have this issue on 6.3?
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    Jared, thanks for the feedback - Darryl has fixed the issue the firewall in app-firewall-1.1.4. It was related to some multiwan changes

    Regarding fetchmail or mail retrieval, you can install manually 'yum install fetchmail' and then configure /etc/fetchmail something like:-

    set daemon 300
    poll pop.server.com protocol pop3 username "username@server.com" ssl password "password" is "localuser" here keep

    Change, server, username and localuser to your own values...

    Monitor logs at /var/log/maillog
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    I have found that I can make do without fetchmail by just having any other emails forward to a zarafa user and then using mail rules to organise emails accordingly. This saves having to run another process and also gets emails 'pushed' through better rather than connecting to an external server at given intervals.
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    we have been testing zarafa on our internal network only and so far we are happy with the results. currently clearos does not have fetchmail installed, how will the installation affect clearos and zarafa? we wanna start testing external email.
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    Jared have tested I have the same behaviour here...i'll ping the dev team, because I can't spot the issue
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    I could ping from client to client via IP and hostname but couldn't ping client to server (or vice versa) with hostname or IP. Externally, everything was working fine. Lan traffic was just locked down and I couldn't see where in iptables. I did restore the IP tables based on a forum post I saw but that made no difference.

    It was also interesting when I stopped the firewall, it reverts to a basic/default rule set. This was still interfering with Lan traffic.
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    the dhcp_app_name entry is just a localisation language error, they are harmless and it means one of the translations is missing

    Could you ping via the local hostname? or IP address? or was it just your external IP?
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    I upgraded to 6.3 today and everything it working on the server side but on the lan, I cannot ping from any clients to the server or from the server to any clients.

    It ended up being a problem with app-firewall-core-1.1.3 so I had to remove and install again from the stable repos to 1.1.2. Fingers crossed nothing else got broken in the process. We'll see I suppose.

    Also, I'm thinking maybe dnsmasq has issues too because if I go to the dhcp webconfg page I get **dhcp_app_name** in the title bar. Might just be a php thing though.
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    Hello,

    Yes, upgrades from 6.2.0 are supported. For all intents and purposes, doing the following is the upgrade to 6.3.0 final:

    yum --enablerepo=clearos-updates-testing upgrade
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    some of us have been testing 6.3 in a semi productive environment. will we have to reinstall the server from scratch, when the final release is available or will we be able to upgrade to the final release?
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    Hey Jared, it's in the pipeline, in short yes you can using a similar setup to the bayesian learning instructions I've posted in the forum. There is also a webaccess plugin I'm investigating
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    Is there any way to train spamassassin currently with Zarafa? If not, are there plans in the works?
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    Hi Peter,

    I am not aware of how the Android Play functions, but I am sure about Apple products. Each app in the Apple store can be bought and used on multiple systems (Ipad, Iphone & Ipod) if they belong to the same person, i.e. if they all use the same user id registered with apple. Well this is not a complaint but a suggestion for the clearcenter marketplace. I am still unsure about the fact that in my case if I install 6.3 final release over the 6.3.0 beta (after a reformat) will it be considered a reinstall or a different system.

    Thanks
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    Hi Peevs,

    ClearOS uses a similar model as Android Play (aka Marketplace) and iPhone. The Zarafa Community paid app is a one-time fee for one system. If you have 10 systems with Zarafa Community in your account, then you will need to make 10 purchases. If you ever need to re-install a system, you certainly don't have to pay again. The subscription can be re-used.
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    Hi Tim,

    I appreciate your contribution towards Zarafa and ClearOS. Believe me, not many people will have a problem in fishing out $10 from their wallet, for getting something out of the box, for which is tedious in configuring, for people like me who do not have any computer / software background. Whatever I have learned is through different forums and vast knowledge available on the net. However I want to inquire is that this fee of $10 a one time fee, that allows me to install the Zarafa app on multiple systems with the same username or will I need to pay this fee every time I install this app. Considering I am trying to build a system with ClearOS Community 6.3.0 which is still a beta version, I need to buy this app. Later when I build a new system with the final release, do I need to pay again.

    Thanks
    Peevs
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    Hi Tim. Thanks for the reply and all the info. Will get on and test in August - should probably be doing other things, but can't resist. I'd like to buy you a beer some day - am back home on the South Coast quite often, not too far from where you are! All the best, Peter
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    Hi Peter, thanks for the feedback, hopefully your experience of 6.3.x will be better (a lot happened between 5.2 and 6.2!)

    - At present the implementation uses the system-mysql database. You can modify this to MySQL if you wish by editing /etc/zarafa/server.cfg and providing the alternative database details.
    - I posted some migration steps here from 5.2 to 6.2, which worked well for my own personal server.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRYXXJlTjqA-zawGl_ODLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit
    - The re-hook process is time consuming if you have large amount of users. The best way would be to migrate users too so that username and UID is maintained. Peter Baldwin was going to look at the 'system config' backup /restore so that users can export the users from ClearOS 5.2 and import into 6.x. That's not available yet, so perhaps worth waiting for?
    - Again Zarafa runs from the default web server port 80/443 in the new version - no additional tweaking required. Different from the setup in 5.2 as ClearOS are keen to remain close to the Zarafa default implementation... if there is a lot of demand I can make the case to use the webconfig ports
    - The official route is to purchase Zarafa through the Marketplace, and I should point you at the very keenly priced Professional $/user from ClearOS which also comes with official support. Unofficially you could in theory still use your own previous license as the underlying software is the same, but you are left on your own for support. Note this is not tested!

    If you need to move your license after testing, I believe Ben has offered on other occasions. Just drop him a PM or raise a support ticket through ClearSDN
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    Hi Tim

    We installed a new server with 6.2 last month, and although were a bit disappointed to find it was not yet production ready, understand the need to get it rolling asap so that testing can really take place. Good to see the credit you're getting for the Zarafa implementation.

    Now that the 6.3 version has made Zarafa available, I'm planning to test run a migration in August. A few questions; 

    - Is it still possible to use the normal MySql database rather than the System one?
    - I am assuming that once all the users have been created in clearos, and the zarafa database has been imported, that all the users need to be manually re-hooked using zarafa-admin?
    - Does the webconfig httpd server still need manual tweaking or is this automatically done now?
    - As I understand it from you previous post, a current Zarafa license (bought from Zarafa here in Holland) can be imported, but that needs to be done manually, and not through Marketplace?

    Thanks for your time, Tim
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    Hi Jay, ClearOS are offering the Community edition, and the Professional edition of Zarafa only via the Marketplace. The pricing of the Professional edition in the Marketplace is very similar to the Small Business Edition anyway, and you get the backing of ClearOS support. I don't think its stated anywhere but you can in theory manually install the zarafa-licensed el6 rpm provided by Zarafa and purchase your own or indeed make use of their 3 free licenses.

    Z-push is not part of the app, but I'm hoping that the Z-push RPM will be available from the ClearOS repo soon. Once installed it doesn't need any further configuration (see the Z-push thread for details).
    ftp://timburgess.net/repo/clearos/6.2/x86_64/testing/zarafa-z-push-2.0-2.clearos.noarch.rpm

    EDIT: Zarafa WebApp is available once you have purchased the app, and can be installed from the command line using 'yum install zarafa-webapp'
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    I think like most that the $10 payment is fine but want to be sure if:

    1. Will it be the Community edition or Free edition (with 3 licenses).
    2. Will Z-Push will be setup as part of the app?
    3. Will the new Zarafa WebApp interface will be installed too?

    Last thing and I think it will be awesome, is if we could have access to the small business edition instead of community or free edition so as to buy licenses.
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    Still confused :)

    "Hi Jeroen,
    Or are you thinking about giving support (in the community) on apps from developers?"

    So if you have a ClearOS Professional subscription then you would provide support for it?
    I am not criticising in any way, just surprised that you would. Hopefully the marketplace will flourish and I am thinking of getting into development mode.
    Alfesco would be my first port of call, Vtiger after that and maybe Open Bravo.

    So if I provide modules for install and configuration would you provide support.

    I can't see how you could possibly support a unknown and hopefully diverse offering?

    The Zarafa config is simple but its a complex piece of software. So in your scenario are you saying that you will check that the settings are correct (firewall, ports...) after that its back to the developer?
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    I've been enjoying the read here on this thread. Hopefully there'll be a way to compensate developers for their work but not restrict options. Sounds like that's getting hashed out.

    I'll be glad to pay a $10 download fee to Tim for his excellent work.
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    Hey Stuart,

    Maybe we're mis-communicating here...

    We (ClearCenter) would only provide support (not maintenance/updates) for an app if:

    a) the app was under our support policy umbrella
    b) the user requesting support had a paid ClearOS Professional subscription

    This allows what I call 'convenience' apps - apps that for a small fee, I'd rather pay a guy like Tim than try and install it myself - to enter the Marketplace at low cost, but not expose anyone to the really expensive part of providing userland support - unless there has been a higher value exchange that's taken place (eg. purchase of a $480 ClearOS Professional Standard subscription).

    Ben
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    Just a quick one. But isn't that stepping on the developers feet whilst opening clearos to extra support requirements.

    If you take joomla they have an extention directory. The joomla people maintain the core. Developers maintain their addon.
    In fact it would be strange to expect ClearOs to support 3rd party offerings?
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    Hi Jeroen,
    Or are you thinking about giving support (in the community) on apps from developers?

    Yes...that's exactly what we're planning...for example, any ClearFoundation free app is supported if the user is running Professional Edition with support terms.

    So, part of the Marketplace submission process (which is a Work-in-Progress) will be to come to terms around support. If it's a small app that the guys providing ClearCenter support are already very familiar with, then sure, we'll provide support for the app for users who have Professional Standard or Premium, or want to pay us on a per incident basis for Professional Lite or Basic.

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    Hi Ben,

    Yes, that system would make a lot off sense and it would make it very clear what to expect from the app and the developer.

    I suggest to NOT give the ClearCenter support different colors as you would only add that on Apps that are made/provided by Clear and that info is also provided. Or are you thinking about giving support (in the community) on apps from developers?

    I do agree that basic e-mail should be available as a free install and that should not have to be Zarafa. Paying $10 for a complete install off a community edition off any product I think is a good thing and would encourage a lot of developers to do the same..

    Jeroen
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    @James, FYI I've updated my build of Z-push to the final 2.0 release here. Hopefully we can get it up onto the repos... :)
    ftp://timburgess.net/repo/clearos/6.2/x86_64/testing/zarafa-z-push-2.0-2.clearos.noarch.rpm
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    Hi Reynaldo,

    Welcome to ClearOS and nice post.

    In fact, your suggestion is exactly 'in the works'. In the 6.3 beta, there are new tags introduced in the Marketplace Details section...one for 'Warranty Policy'...and another for "Support Policy".

    I'm thinking of using an icon system to explain at a glance what an app's policies are wrt to these two fields. Still mulling it over, but for "Warranty Support", something like this:

    N/A - Not applicable...app is free
    Red 'X' - No refunds/returns
    Green '24hr' - Full refund, no questions asked, within 24 hours of purchase
    Yellow '30d' - 80% refund, explanation required

    Those tags are just suggestions at this point.

    For Support Policy, a similar color-coded system that indicates where you can go for support. For example:

    Green - Community Forum support
    Blue - Developer can be contacted via email for support
    Red - Developer can be contacted to request paid support
    Orange - ClearCenter will provide best-possible support under terms of your Professional Subscription
    Black - ClearCenter can be contacted to provide support on consulting basis

    We'll have a binary selector here...so an app could have Green and Blue...or Green, Blue and Orange or Green and Orange etc., depending on how the developer wants to model support, and how ClearCenter perceives how much support could come in for an app, and how complex it is.

    Here's a good example of why we'd want to go this way...Someone creates a VoIP app around Asterisk and places it in the Marketplace for $20. Someone buys it, and bases their business phone communications on it. We don't want the user thinking they can lean on us while we drop everything and try and fix a phone system we're not familiar with under a $480 all inclusive support plan. So in this example, Green, Red and Black would be appropriate, given that there's no way support could be included for $20. That figure represents the time savings to install Asterisk or a PBX/VoIP stack from source.

    Does this kind of system make sense to everyone? Helpful? Too complicated? Of course, there will be a supporting web page detailing the colour coded icons out...that has yet to get created, but is my very next task once I fix Marketplace version control.

    Ben
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    I first found out about ClearOS from FLOSS weekly. I have been following your project ever since. Before then I was using another system for my home server. They started charging for apps too. The biggest problem I found was they waited for all the work to be done on the new verison and only communicated the changes when they released it. If they really wanted a community around their product they should of at least asked the community itself and made them feel like our voices counted.

    It also became apparent that when I was paying for an app and I had a problem or bug they would take forever to fix them or they always told me to file the bug upstream. This happened because there core developers were few and were supporting too many apps. This lead me to ask myself why am I paying all this money for. The only answer I could come up with was for configuration and not for support or help. Also there were a few packages that were misconfigured or not configured with the settings that I needed. I knew I could do installation and configuration myself so I did just that and stopped buying apps.

    The second part of the story is that when I got involved I was fixing their documentation. I do this at work and I'm a bit of a documentation nazi. So I fixed what I could. However I started feeling let down because I was contributing yet they only rewarded the programmers/developers. So ultimately I stopped contributing and started searching for alternatives.

    The reason I'm telling you this story is that I beleive that charging for apps gets to be a slippery slope. For $10 dollars what are you providing? Configuration, support, or both? I think you should make this very clear. Keep the expectations or your customers the same as the expectations of your developers. Second Zarafa is licensed under the AGPL which lets you charge for it. It also says you have to release your sources to the public. If you do these few things I see no reason not to charge for the app.
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    Stuart, there should be no problem with using any type of backup utility with clearos as long as your not trying to hack a free way of using their zarafa-backup :)

    I have had a client that I have sold zarafa licenses to (I am a zarafa partner) use a sync of e-mail to another server as a backup without any issues in the past before he even bought the zarafa small business edittion. This should be no problem.
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    Good point James as ClearOS is perfect for the Small Business.

    Does an IMAP backup utility in conjunction with the community edition break any of the licensing?

    ClearOS has the user credentials in LDAP and being IMAP it wouldn't just be limited to Zarafa.

    Maybe Tim might be tempted to have a look at SOGo http://www.sogo.nu
    SOGo practically matches Zarafa and has the advantage of being under a GPL and does brick level for free.

    I still don't mind $10 for integration and choice would be advantageous to all.
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    Tim,
    Regarding the brick level backup that's not entirely true. If you buy small business edittion of zarafa you can do brick level backup as well as use outlook mapi clients. Professional version allows you to intergrate Blackberry enterprise server on top of the adittions of what small business server has and extra support blocks.

    This is why on my previios post I think clearos should allow the community version to have small business edittion if they have professional version on the paid for version of clearos.

    It's cheaper then professional and it gives people a chance to get an affordable paid for zarafa. I know you can manually install small business on top of the app but I think clearos should really think about intergrating it into their app market.
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    Thanks Ben, James, Jared and Stuart for your support, just some responses
    When you start doing this paid for version of zarafa on community I feel that it slightly gimps people that choose to use it, Zarafa community is free after all and you are charging $10 for people to use it
    The way I see it - yes you can download and install the Zarafa Community edition for free, and configure it yourself...or you can pay $10 and have an app that does it all for you :)

    I've have requested Z-push to be formerly included on the build system, I'll ask again.

    Just a quick question around this, I assume of course that there will be a smooth transition for those of us currently running the beta?
    The configuration as I understand it should not change substantially to the main version. Assuming there are no major bugs which become roadblocks then there shouldn't be any issues upgrading to final release.

    Yes unfortunately the brick level backup tool is only available in Zarafa Professional - that's the way Zarafa package it. The mechanism for Community backup is via Mysqldump, and backup of attachment directory /var/lib/zarafa. With the ClearOS configuration backup, there is the ability to restore systems to the previous LDAP setup and therefore restoring the full Zarafa database shouldn't involve mapping hundreds of users mailboxes to the right UID
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    Zarafa is sick innit. I think that means very good.

    Community version of Zarafa is superb. I have to say that the inability to do brick level backups and restores in the community version is a hindrance that will bite any sysadmin eventually in the bum.

    I am not really bothered about Outlook MAPI as why bother when you have such a superb zero config web interface.
    If you ever want to restore a single email account to a previous date then its a Pro license.

    Thats the big one for me with Zarafa and its licensing.

    I did a clean install of Zentyal one time and recreated all the users and obviously you get new UID's. I had to manually replace the UID's in the Zarafa community database that had been restored. So it was two spreadsheets of old & new, match em and replace, for over a hundred users. Wasn't happy. :)

    Stuart
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    Just a quick question around this, I assume of course that there will be a smooth transition for those of us currently running the beta?

    Very happy to pay for the addition of Zarafa - in fact, after running the beta I doubt I will ever go back! I just hope all works seamlessly when the time comes for the final release.
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    This is..interesting.

    I'd like to say it's great that Zarafa is coming to ClearOS very soon and I'm happy to hear that. I would like to say I have no problems with the fact that Tim gets paid by buying a $10 app for zarafa. He has personally helped me out on several ocasions on problems with ClearOS 5.2 when Zarafa would not provide support due to it being an un supported OS.

    For that I am enternally greatful for the hardwork that Tim has put in even when he didn't have to and is STILL I might add putting in that hard work in supporting 5.2 providing updates for the community to use, you are amazing guy and I wish I had the programming ability to help you with doing the stuff you do alas I am only an engineer but I do want to start learning though! No time like the present.

    However, I do have one thing I would like to add, with you making Zarafa officially a paid for app for both professional and community I think that the community version should be given a chance to get abilities like professional does. What I mean by this is that in clearos professional you are allowing people to buy Zarafa professional per person. I would like to see that you can provide Zarafa small business version to clear os community so that users can also choose to buy the free model of zarafa or pay for small business version that includes mapi.

    When you start doing this paid for version of zarafa on community I feel that it slightly gimps people that choose to use it, Zarafa community is free after all and you are charging $10 for people to use it (again stating I have no problem with this just making a point). I feel that users using the community version should have the oppourtunity to be able to use paid for zarafa as well and not just the open source version since you are now going down this route. It is just a suggestion and one I hope you can take into consideration.

    On a side note, with regards to Zarafa is z-push going to be in the repos or will people have to build it from source, I remember making a post in the mailstack testing a while ago and I haven't really heard much from it since. I would appreciate it if you could provide that kind of information also.
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    ... Oh right. I have no idea why I didn't think of that already.

    Will give it a go. :thumbsup:
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    Hi Ben, the Marketplace is a new feature for ClearOS 6.x, you can check out the demo servers or a VM version?
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    I'm curious to see this running, but I don't seem to have access to the Marketplace on my system/portal account. Is there something I'm missing? Using Enterprise 5.2 on a clearbox..
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    I think the price Tim is asking for his Zarafra package is reasonable in this part of the world

    Just to clarify - the price has been set by the ClearCenter team on this one ... and I totally agree it needs to be acceptable. No use paying $50 for an app that just prints "hello world". I think the value for money comes in the time saved, in theory you could install the software and configure it all manually. The resources are all there...but if there was a small app which did it for you and saved you a couple hours for a few $ :)
    Tim i'm hoping for more apps.

    Yup! they're in the pipeline :) I enjoy making them too and that's where the real buzz comes for me. Regarding the mail server I'm always happy to help if I can regardless of what your're trying to setup. The ClearOS community is great at providing technical support, and i'm proud to be part of it.
    he's just special

    I'll take that as a compliment :-P
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    Ben Chambers wrote:
    I'm a bit jealous all the cool things you make.


    FYI - although Tim fits into the categories of both developer and community forum support (he's just special :P ), there's no reason a developer's time is any more important than yours Marcel...someone who supports users here on the forum, writes documentation (any volunteers? -- developers are hopeless at writing docs!), does social media stuff (Andi Micro, I'm looking at you) etc. We'd love to come up with methods of reward or compensation and we (the guys that make up ClearCenter) have already discussed ways in which it could be done...Right now, its resources that are preventing something from materializing. All in due time...all in due time.

    B.


    Ben Thank you for your kind words :)
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    Ben Chambers wrote:
    Hi Marcel,

    Just to be clear in case there is confusion...the only limitation in Zarafa Community Edition wrt users is when you are using the native Outlook/Exchange protocol (MAPI) to connect.

    If you use the Zarafa webmail UI, or a mail client such as Thunderbird, Mac's Mail or even Outlook via standard messaging protocols (IMAP or POP), there is no limit.

    Ben


    Thanks for pointing this out Ben. Your reply is clarifying my misunderstandment! Then maybe i have to try Zarafa. @Tim I need a lot of support when setting up mail never did this before is this included :P :laugh: Just joking :)
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    I'm a bit jealous all the cool things you make.


    FYI - although Tim fits into the categories of both developer and community forum support (he's just special :P ), there's no reason a developer's time is any more important than yours Marcel...someone who supports users here on the forum, writes documentation (any volunteers? -- developers are hopeless at writing docs!), does social media stuff (Andi Micro, I'm looking at you) etc. We'd love to come up with methods of reward or compensation and we (the guys that make up ClearCenter) have already discussed ways in which it could be done...Right now, its resources that are preventing something from materializing. All in due time...all in due time.

    B.
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    Hi Marcel,

    Just to be clear in case there is confusion...the only limitation in Zarafa Community Edition wrt users is when you are using the native Outlook/Exchange protocol (MAPI) to connect.

    If you use the Zarafa webmail UI, or a mail client such as Thunderbird, Mac's Mail or even Outlook via standard messaging protocols (IMAP or POP), there is no limit.

    Ben
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    First in my opinion the core features of ClearOS community should be free also a mail solution!

    I think the marketplace is good thing for ClearOS and if we want make this a success we need to pay developers. Also when developers get payed it attracts them. Example the App store of Apple. There are really great apps in this store better as Google play. BUT the price must be acceptable! Also free updates!

    I think the price Tim is asking for his Zarafra package is reasonable in this part of the world. If i going to use Zarafa i'm willing to pay this. The only thing i don't like of Zarafa is the limitations. You have to pay again for a license for more users but that is something else.

    Tim i'm hoping for more apps. I'm a bit jealous all the cool things you make. I think what you are doing for this community is really great and i think everyone agree on this.
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    Feel like I ought to chip in here... :)

    Firstly my motivation to develop and help users has never been money, and the team have very kindly offered this as a 'thank you'. This is a step forward (think future developers and cool apps in the market place) for people to contribute to ClearOS. By providing some financial incentive for the substantial effort it takes, it motivates other developers to also contribute which is ultimately better for ClearOS and users.

    Secondly I also understand that the mail server is part of the 'core' ClearOS functionality, and that charging for it seems like a 'feature reduction' or change in the ClearFoundation ethos (regardless of the price)- and because of that I think Pete / Daves suggestion of a Cyrus IMAP solution is a good one. The Market Place should be about choice...

    Moving forward if we as a community want the Market Place to thrive will need to consider how we support user contributions (not just mine). The concept that Open Source software should always be free (as in money) is a wrong one. When you buy it you actually own it to hack, pull apart, use however you wish etc. I'm not going to argue the pros/cons of the open source model but there's plenty on the net...

    If we want ClearOS to have a vibrant selection of turnkey apps that can be used out of the box, rather than a bunch of hacks / howto's then it needs provide some incentive. For example I have supported the Zarafa app in 5.2 for the last two and a half years, across two threads totalling 160000 views and 1200 posts... that takes time, and I sure hope others don't get put off. Given enough time I could probably write one for SOGo...but would you pay for it? ;)

    And yes Ben did pay for the beer :-) thanks!
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    Thank You and I will pay the $10 with out a problem!!! Great Job love ClearOS... :)
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    Hi,

    I love open source (as I do the support that Tim gives on this forum! :woohoo: ): I jumped on the ClearOS wagon because it was 'feature complete' (for my needs) and because of the active community.

    The best thing about Open Source is not only that it is free, but that knowledge is selflessly shared which in turn triggers selflessly sharing. For that reason i draw the line when it comes to paying, even as little as 10,-, because at that moment the 'selflessly' part is dying....

    Another good thing about Open Source is the freedom to join or leave and to contribute or not: so if you don't like it, step up and make your point, if you don't like the decisions, do it yourself or leave to join another community...

    One big thing missing (for me personally) currently in ClearOS is the lack of basic email functionality on top of which a good email solution can be built: because I do not have the skills to develop and package one myself (If I could then I would most definitely go with the new and improved SOGo 2.0: because it reuses the infrastructure that is already in place, has no licensing limitations, etc.) I am investigating other possibilities amongst which is also looking at different solutions... and that doesn't feel good :(

    just my two cents.... will wait on how this will turn out.

    regards,
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    I really like Zarafa and I think the community edition covers many bases. Yes its slightly heavy for basic use and slightly light of a full exchange replacement.

    It looks good enough for most of my clients and it mimics outlook so many of my clients are used to the style of interface.

    Some people might think its a bit heavy but for many a solution like horde or squirrel mail isn't going to cut the mustard.

    If the server has both pop, imap & smtp covered so you connect with a client then that is enough.

    If ClearOS offer a free webmail solution then that might be considered the defacto solution. This might actually discourage developers from providing more choice.

    Personally I think Roundcube is the best alternative for a lightweight webmail service that has a variety of plugins for expansion.
    I have used horde and squirrel mail and to be honest they don't cut the mustard in my mind.

    ClearOS also have to support these addons and this might be to the detriment of the core.

    So can we not get developers involved to provide options for Roundcube and Horde and Squirrel Mail. If they want to charge more than Tim for them that is their prerogative.

    I really feel the Marketplace is essential for a Clearos future and if it isn't a marketplace that offers choice and lots of it then someone else will provide a product that does.

    I really don't feel that a free webmail module would provide any benefit to ClearOS. It kicks the marketplace between the legs before it has even had a chance to start.
    Also we are talking a couple of beers here for probably a lot of hard work.

    If anyone fancies offering the community version of Alfresco or Vtiger for the same then at this level I am most happy to contribute.

    If developers are going to provide 3rd party modules and applications and ClearOS provide free alternatives. Whats the point for the developer?

    Or can we expect ClearOS to provide support for all our needs ?

    ClearOS please offer Roundcube for the same as Tim.

    Stuart :)
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    I've been using Clark Connect for years, and upgraded to Clear OS a couple months ago. I couldn't be happier. I also have NO problem shelling out $10 for mail support. I only need smtp relay for a fax machine to send pdf and save ink :) $10 is a tiny price to pay. I think allowing small charges for stuff people work really hard on will incentivize others to do the same.
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    Peter Baldwin wrote:
    Is there a good webmail client to suggest? Squirrelmail seems very dated. Roundcube?
    Back in the CC4.3 or 5.0 days I used Roundcube but it became deprecated and to use it on non-standard ports you had to install pear and other stuff (there is a thread on the old CC forums about it) so I reverted to Horde. For just e-mail Roundcube was then much faster than horde and did everything I wanted. I'd be happy with it. I've never used Squirrelmail
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    I'm sharing Nick's and Tony opinion. I think ClearOS should have a basic free mail solution. If you want more you can buy Zarafa. Also i think it's more than fair that Tim gets a fee for integrating Zarafa.
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    David Loper suggested that we put together a standard Cyrus IMAP mail server solution (free x2). That would solve:

    1) The resource issues
    2) The free as in beer issue

    The API and GUI for the app is actually already written (!), but the configuration to get it working properly has not been verified. In version 5.x, there's a dependency on Kolab. That dependency needs to be ripped out and Cyrus IMAP should just talk directly to PAM or LDAP.

    Is there a good webmail client to suggest? Squirrelmail seems very dated. Roundcube?
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    Hi,

    I'm new with ClearOS but I think it's a very bad news for the community.
    Please, consider to have a *full free* mail solution for the community and offer other solution with fee, so give alternative for a *basic* service like a mail server to the community.

    Regards,
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    I'm with Nick on this one. I was disappointed that the 6.2 betas had no mail whatsoever making them useless as a test platform for my needs, I just installed boinc on the two machines and left them running.

    I am testing Zarafa at the moment - and I am less than impressed. Comparing two almost identical machines hardware wise - one 5.2 and Horde - the other 6.2 with Zarafa - the same mail backup job (approx 2G of mail) takes over twice as long with Zarafa with a much bigger increase in CPU utilization (3x +) while doing it - a step backwards...

    My view is that 6.2 should have come with basic mail from the start - Cyrus and Squirrel or similar - and then for those that require it, provide a paid-for mail program with many more bells and whistles such as calender etc...

    I am now seriously considering wiping one of my test machines and giving other products a test run to see if they better suit my needs for when 5.2 becomes unsupported.

    This is not a criticism of Tim's work - just don't need such heavy weight mail program with all the overhead of MySQL for a simple imap server... but then again, I am probably not your average user either...
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    Hi,

    Although I appreciate all the work done by Tim, I am disappointed that what I would consider to be a basic part of ClearOS - the mail server - is no longer free. The main reasons I started using ClarkConnect were to share mail at home so I did not have to play musical PC's and to share files for the same reason. IPSec VPN was a bonus (although I knew at the time I would have to configure it manually because of remote endpoint considerations). I understand people need to live and the software has been free up to now, and on this basis I've been more than happy to give my time back to the community. The ClearOS business model has been built on a free core produce with paid for bolt ons and support contracts. This developed from the ClarkConnect model where mail for up to 10 mailboxes was still free. For the home user a mail server should still be included in the free core functionality.
    I feel pretty strongly that this is the wrong direction it certainly leaves me wondering if I'll be upgrading from 5.2

    Nick
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    Obviously I would like to see a core item such as mail be free. Also I would like more contributions to and its great that Tim did all that work. So for me its not much and hopefully this will attract overs.

    I work with Joomla and their market place (extension directory) has flourished this way.

    To be honest I would like to see subscriptions work along the lines of you pay for what you use as well.

    If we have a great application like Zarafa anybody looked at Alfresco, Openbravo and a few other best ofs in the open source world.

    It would be great to have community editions with a small cost to cover integration work.

    Stuart
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