Georgina wrote:

Another 30 updates to CentOS 7, most of them also applicable to ClearOS 7.
This is now the 3rd batch of updates missing from ClearOS.

ClearOS is now well and truly out-of-date. Shame on the ClearOS mangement for :-

1. not providing updates to a product that their web-site clains is still supported.
2. allegedly taking money from paying customers but not providing the support for which payment was made.

Is ClearOS on the brink of financial collapse? What other reason could there be for not investing a modest amount of money to ensue people like Nick provide the necessay support to keep ClearOS current?

I totally agree and i think the most customers of COS

1. As mentioned before the communication of COS (Micheal) is lacking and it this is a signal it it going down the hill
2. This is shaming and we have payed for support or updates, not even to mentioned develoment. So basicly we are entitled to a refund of out money

Nick was the only point of contact over the last years who did a lot to support the cusotmers of COS
It looked to me he was the onlt one at COS wit a heart for the customers and had the decency to reply or communicate

When you are looking at the team size at https://www.clear.co.com/leadership it should not be a problem to get any movemnt is Clear

Another 30 updates to CentOS 7, most of them also applicable to ClearOS 7.
This is now the 3rd batch of updates missing from ClearOS.

ClearOS is now well and truly out-of-date. Shame on the ClearOS mangement for :-

1. not providing updates to a product that their web-site clains is still supported.
2. allegedly taking money from paying customers but not providing the support for which payment was made.

Is ClearOS on the brink of financial collapse? What other reason could there be for not investing a modest amount of money to ensue people like Nick provide the necessay support to keep ClearOS current?

It is hard to find a single platform to replace ClearOS that's this well put together. TrueNAS is really nice, but I ended up with some hardware compatibility issues, so I had to abandon it. I ended up running Ubuntu server and installing everything I need manually. It's not as nice as ClearOS was, but it will hold me over. I plan to keep an eye on ClearOS and hope to see things come back together. I'm not interested in the other "companies" the Clear umbrella now covers (https://www.clear.co.com/) I'm just looking for a supported server/gateway platform that's as secure, stable, reliable, and simple as ClearOS was. I completely agree with and understand their focus on the decentralized/privacy movement their organization has taken on, but I feel it's created other issues that caused ClearOS, the server/gateway platform, to fall apart. I've loved this company for somewhere around 15-20 years and it's really unfortunate I feel I need to move away. I'm hoping they are able to get past this and create the best open source server/gateway platform again. Good luck everyone. Hope to hear from you all again.

ClearOS is HARD to replace feature set wise in one distro. I have tried Zentyal and Univention among others. My strategy going forward is to deploy Proxmox and bring in the necessary bits and pieces in containers/VM etc. What I really like about Proxmox is it is the ONLY distro I have found that a virtual machine can be provisioned from start to finish entirely in its web interface. Even ClearOS with app-kimchi etc for KVM cannot do that - still have to know shell commands to setup parts of therein. I could then deploy ClearOS as a VM under Proxmox if any features still needed (although I'd rather not). Been using ClearOS and its predecessor Clarkconnect since 2001. Have around 30 deployments of ClearOS presently but when server replacement time comes, can't justify continuing with it. Ultimately IBM is to blame for this mess...

ClearOS is HARD to replace feature set wise in one distro. I have tried Zentyal and Univention among others. My strategy going forward is to deploy Proxmox and bring in the necessary bits and pieces in containers/VM etc. What I really like about Proxmox is it is the ONLY distro I have found that a virtual machine can be provisioned from start to finish entirely in its web interface. Even ClearOS with app-kimchi etc for KVM cannot do that - still have to know shell commands to setup parts of therein. I could then deploy ClearOS as a VM under Proxmox if any features still needed (although I'd rather not). Been using ClearOS and its predecessor Clarkconnect since 2001. Have around 30 deployments of ClearOS presently but when server replacement time comes, can't justify continuing with it. Ultimately IBM is to blame for this mess...

I am sorry but this has nothing to do with IBM. Please remember that ClearOS6 was built directly off RedHat EL6 (at the time Centos was having internal problems). There is nothing in particular to stop a future ClearOS 8 or 9 being directly build from RedHat or its derivatives, AlmaLinux, Rocky or even Oracle Linux and moving between them is only a little more than changing source repos (perhaps not OracleLinux, but I don't know) and stripping out any branding. The issues with ClearOS (lack of) development are entirely internal.

ClearOS is HARD to replace feature set wise in one distro. I have tried Zentyal and Univention among others. My strategy going forward is to deploy Proxmox and bring in the necessary bits and pieces in containers/VM etc. What I really like about Proxmox is it is the ONLY distro I have found that a virtual machine can be provisioned from start to finish entirely in its web interface. Even ClearOS with app-kimchi etc for KVM cannot do that - still have to know shell commands to setup parts of therein. I could then deploy ClearOS as a VM under Proxmox if any features still needed (although I'd rather not). Been using ClearOS and its predecessor Clarkconnect since 2001. Have around 30 deployments of ClearOS presently but when server replacement time comes, can't justify continuing with it. Ultimately IBM is to blame for this mess...