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Anyone else out there using CF -> IDE or "SSD" in your physical Clear/CC servers?

I can't get enough of the stuff, as long as you take steps to minimize write wear (remote syslog etc) they're way more reliable than spinning discs. Since one generally doesn't need a lot of space for a Clear install you can pick up 2-8GB cards for cheap and the adapters for about a buck or two on ebay. There are also double sided adapters that scream "RAID me." I even popped one in my old laptop since 1.8" drives are a touch overpriced.
Tuesday, June 08 2010, 08:00 PM
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    Les
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    Thursday, October 21 2010, 09:11 AM - #Permalink
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    Tony Ellis wrote:
    I personally would be wary of using raid with USB attached drives...
    The raid mailing list has numerous reports of people having problems with a USB drive being intermittently dropped from their Raid array


    :huh:

    I run 4 x 1TB drives at home plugged into USB2.0 ports, using software RAID. It's been awesome so far. Due to grow the array soon.
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    AndyL
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    Monday, June 14 2010, 10:48 AM - #Permalink
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    I think trim was implemented in v2.6.33 of the kernel, and hdparm 9-20. So ClearOS won't have it. If you look at that link I posted, you will see that the Kingston drive was hardly affected by a 'full' drive. Trim made a bit of difference, but not much. Even when the drives are running in their 'degraded' mode, they are still faster than a rotating drive.
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    Monday, June 14 2010, 10:36 AM - #Permalink
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    What about TRIM? Won't the SSDs go slow over time without it?
    Does ClearOS have any TRIM functionality?
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    AndyL
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    Monday, June 14 2010, 10:06 AM - #Permalink
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    I really don't think you need to be worried about the lifetaime of a modern SSD drive. They last longer than a rotating hard disc. If you look at some of the lifetimes, they are way in excess of hard discs. The speed increases are well worth having. The top contenders seem to be Intel,Kingston and OCZ. Interesting review here

    The next bit of money I spend on my laptop will be an SSD, and when I upgrade the ClearOS machnie we have here, it will have an SSD as a boot device too.
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    kfox
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 04:57 PM - #Permalink
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    You can write them to SHM, NFS or remote syslog.

    If you write them to SHM you might run a daily/weekly cron script to sync them to "disc"
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 02:59 PM - #Permalink
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    personially I just usually have the SSD be the primary OS drive and the seconds drive which is usually a standard drive (moving non-SSD drive) be the drive where all logs go (usually its just an old 4GB drive that I keep around the house for that type of thing)
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 02:36 PM - #Permalink
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    Out of interest, with these drives how do you get round the problem of the continual writing of the logs such as syswatch, the mail logs and so on?
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 02:15 PM - #Permalink
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    generally the average SSD will live (on average) about 3 years or 30,000 (give or take 10,000) write cycles (I don't think read has much of a factor
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 01:52 PM - #Permalink
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    Just curious whether anyone knows a reliable method for working out the life span for solid state drives? do they have anything similar to smart monitoring for your regular hard drives
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    Sunday, June 13 2010, 01:45 PM - #Permalink
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    you got a link to the OX SSD drives? im interested in looking at them
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    kfox
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    Friday, June 11 2010, 02:40 PM - #Permalink
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    Nice.
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    Friday, June 11 2010, 12:41 PM - #Permalink
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    I use SuperTalent Masterdrive OX SSD drives. I have about 2 dozen of them running, mounted with noatime, with excellent results so far. They cost about $70, so the price is very reasonable.
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    Wednesday, June 09 2010, 10:59 AM - #Permalink
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    If you're going to be running a lot of VMs I *highly* recommend using a high speed scsi array or fibre channel. The faster the drives the better, I usually only settle for 15K RPM when I expect a lot of VMs to be talking to the array at once. Remember that the write speed on these things is usually abysmal; though the expensive SATA-style SSDs are fast enough and reliable enough to replace hard drives in a RAID.
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    Wednesday, June 09 2010, 01:43 AM - #Permalink
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    I personally would be wary of using raid with USB attached drives...
    The raid mailing list has numerous reports of people having problems with a USB drive being intermittently dropped from their Raid array
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    Wednesday, June 09 2010, 01:35 AM - #Permalink
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    I'm in the process of building a new VM server/NAS (still early on ... deciding on both software and hardware still).

    I'm quite possibly going the DOM, CF, or USB thumb drive route too (if not that ... a mirrored set of small slow 2.5" HDs).

    Some motherboards conveniently have USB ports internally now ... right on the mainboard that you can boot from. Here is one I'm considering that has two USB ports right on the mainboard ... could raid 1 them! ...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182209
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    Wednesday, June 09 2010, 12:51 AM - #Permalink
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    I have a Via-Epia with built in CF slot in which an 8 Gig Card is installed.
    Works great - mounted with "noatime" to minimise writes...
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